With another dramatic and historic shift in the 2024 presidential election, Islanders are again reacting.
President Joe Biden announced on Sunday — while down with a case of COVID-19 — that he would drop out of the race and has endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris to take his place on the ballot.
It’s still unclear who will officially represent the Democratic ticket in November, but key Vineyard town committees have supported the former California senator.
“We are 100% behind Kamala Harris to be the next President of the United States. She is fully qualified, incredibly competent and has the temperament to be our next president. She has the full endorsement of current president Joe Biden and we, the MV Dems, fully support her,” a statement from the Martha’s Vineyard Democratic Council issued on Sunday reads.
Carla Cooper, chair of the Edgartown Democratic town committee, also issued a nearly identical statement in firm support of Harris.
“It is with great enthusiasm that we join the millions of voices across the country in fully supporting and endorsing Kamala Harris for President of the United States,” Cooper’s statement read. “She is supremely qualified, experienced and ready to hit the ground running to continue working on behalf of the American people and in defense of our democracy.”
Both groups also thank President Biden for his service to the country.
Harris made a visit to Martha’s Vineyard last summer in a fundraising event for the Biden campaign. She was in Provincetown this past weekend.
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, on a shortlist of possible candidates for Democrats to run for president with Biden stepping out, will be on the Vineyard this upcoming weekend. She’ll be at the MVRHS Performing Arts Center to promote her new book, “True Gretch.”
Massachusetts Gov. Maura Healey also released a statement saying she was proud to support Harris, calling her a “proven leader.”
“As President, she will grow our economy, reduce costs, create jobs, and make sure every woman has access to the health care she needs,” the governor said. “She’ll lay the foundation for lower interest rates and prosperity, and she’ll support NATO and American leadership abroad.”
“. . . incredibly competent . . .”
How and when has she demonstrated that level of skill and knowledge?
During the entirety of her career as a public servant. Google it.
When she served the party back in California!
Hmmmm, possibly when she graduated from Howard University in 1986? Maybe when she graduated from law school in 1989? Could be when she passed the Bar exam in 1990? Conceivably when she was District Attorney of San Francisco from 2004-2011? Perhaps when she was the Attorney General of California from 2011-2017? Perchance was it when she was a U.S. Senator from 2017-2021? Plausibly as the Vice-President of The United States of America, 2017-Present?
I’m talking about the degree of competency that allows one to be a good president. Her educational background does not prove that she can handle the highest office in the country. Nor does anyone else’s. That’s a little like bragging about a sticker on a book report, especially at this stage in the game.
Carla’s instruction to Google isn’t helpful. I familiarized myself with Harris’s entire record in California, including the details of specific cases, when she was running against Biden years ago. There were many ethical red flags. That’s putting it mildly. I determined that she was not someone I wanted to see advance in the race. Since she became VP anyway, I’ve tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. It was misplaced.
When asking this question, I assumed it was obvious that I was wondering what she has done in her *current* job to warrant moving up. After three-plus years, no one ever has much to offer on that note. Everyone I’ve spoken with, whether liberal or not, feels she has accomplished little to nothing of value.
Her handling of the border is an embarrassment that has led to numerous problems, all urgent. While the issue doesn’t exclusively rest at her feet—there have been failings across the board—she can’t even provide straight answers when interviewed. Everything is deflected.
I have listened to the entirety of each speech she’s delivered and have never come away feeling better informed about the status of our country, or anything else. She talks in circles/tautologies and seems to have no grasp on the pressing subjects at hand. It’s alarming that sometimes Biden is the more effective speaker.
I do not believe she has demonstrated the kind of leadership, knowledge, work ethic, or clarity it would take to turn this nation around. She hasn’t performed well in polls over the course of her term, for good reason, and I simply don’t think she can win. A disappointing development when others in the party may have a better chance.
But it’s the MV Times. She will receive support here no matter what, and any commenter who points out her shortcomings will be at fault for noticing the elephant. I especially disagree with the idea that the public is to blame for her notoriously poor communication skills.
Katie, are you joking?!
You would compare Harris to Trump? Trump hit one of teachers at school and was kicked out. And you compare his lousy grades to hers?
“You would compare Harris to Trump? Trump hit one of teachers at school and was kicked out. And you compare his lousy grades to hers?”
Mary, your reply has nothing to do with my actual remarks. This has happened before.
Please take another look. I did not mention Trump once in my entire comment. I wasn’t comparing Harris to anybody. I was 1. assessing her candidacy based on her personal track record and 2. expressing my disappointment that she was chosen by those running the show.
It is, after all, an article about Kamala Harris. Lord forbid somebody focus on the topic du jour and share a Trump-free thought. If I were to compare her to another, it would be someone within her own party, as that’s where my frustrations lie. There’s a better option on the left, but with the way this played out, voters were not given a true say.
I never mentioned Trump’s or Harris’s grades. I said that educational background—hers or “anyone else’s”—is not proof of presidential competency. Law degrees are a dime a dozen in Washington; so are inept politicians on both sides. It’s a good knowledge base to have, sure, but the required skillset differs greatly between the two gigs. Besides that, I believe her stretch in the California courts shows utterly poor character and judgment. Many Americans agree, even if you do not.
I only referenced schooling at all because her college years were mentioned as evidence of ability. I find that telling. When you’re the VP of the United States and someone has to reach back decades to defend your performance? That says something about the lack of measurable success in the present. Notice how those praising her have done so in vague terms.
I’ve been closely observing Harris since 2020 and have yet to see or hear anything that instills the slightest bit of confidence. I think she is in over her head, which accounts for the abstract ramblings and inappropriate laughter whenever a tragedy is mentioned. I don’t believe she knows how to respond to tough situations, which defines the job of POTUS in a nutshell.
Working constantly myself, I am not available to follow Harris around. If she puts in as much effort as you claim, she should be able to produce an ultra-long list of recent, relevant achievements. Maybe that will be forthcoming.
Maybe not. In this backwards timeline where the plot twists keep on rolling, I don’t wish to offer many predictions. We could end up with a Kardashian in the White House and I’d just blink and be like, “Okay. That tracks for 2024.”
There are other reasons I find her lacking, such as her views on Hamas, but it’s not worth going into more detail here. I am only willing to vote blue if the candidate has taken a firm stand against the rampant—and socially excused—antisemitism we’ve witnessed this year.
Katie Lane for the win. Best comment ever.
Katie, when you talked about Harris, and said you didn’t mention Trump once, I think we can agree that we are only talking about either of them because they are in a race together.
Trump hitting his teacher is evidence of his embrace of violence at a young age. It’s would be a leap to say he has outgrown that particular flaw.
Katie, you mentioned that you don’t think Harris has a good enough work ethic to be president! Astonishing!!!! I dare you to follow her around for seven days (you can randomly pick any non-holiday week since she became president). Few people would be able to keep up!
What Katie said!
Labels and degrees don’t make one competent. If that were true, then Joe Biden would be “competent.”
She was part of the coup that didn’t “pass the torch” from Joe to her. Obama passed the torch to his new puppet – after ripping it from Joe’s arthritic hands.
Labels and degrees mean everything. She’s been elected to high level positions that require intelligence, high level problem solving and persistence, as with her fine education.
Poor communication skills?? Have you heard her present and speak?
Elizabeth Warren clarified on Sunday that it’s Congress that has to get behind solving the border issues, since this major effort requires funding. A plan has been agreed to in Congress. Republicans just refuse to pass it. The VP is powerless to affect the border. Of course trump’s brilliant plan is just to bomb Mexico. But it’s OK, because Harris has huge organizations and networks nationally who support her. She’s the best.
The border mess lays at the feet of Biden/Harris. When they debated in their primary they INVITED and WELCOMED illegal immigration. Go watch for yourself. Now Elizabeth Warren is saying Harris has a plan to make all the illegals citizens. Disgusting power grab by having more people dependent on the government. If this happens we are in the fast track to socialism and the demise of this country. Why, because we can’t afford it. 34 TRILLION IN DEBT.
Katie– You are concerned about “ethical red flags” ?
REALLY ?
Do you have any idea at to what the official role
of the VP is ? I think breaking a tie vote in the senate is about it.
The only VP in my lifetime that actually did something was
Cheney, who filled in for a president who was pretty out of touch.
Yeah, Bush didn’t have the nerve to order the shooting down
of flight 93. He also had no idea how to properly invade a sovereign
country for no reason .
May I remind you that border security and funding is at the discretion
of congress. Biden proposed comprehensive border policies that had
bipartisan support until the Fuhrer stepped in and bullied republicans
to not even allow a vote on it.
It purposefully made Biden look like he was incompetent and boosted
trump in the polls. I thought that wall that Mexico was paying for
fixed the border long before Biden became president.
trump is the guy who had an official
policy to separate families as a “deterrent”. Hundreds of small children
have yet to be reunited with their families, and many never will.
And you are concerned about “ethical red flags” ?
Trump stiffed employees, declared bankruptcy 4 times, and stole from
his his “charitable” personal piggy bank.
And you are concerned about “ethical red flags” ?
He bragged about assaulting women, cheated on all three of his wives
–he even cheats at golf. He was found civilly liable for defaming
a woman he raped.And is a 34 times over convicted felon.
And you are concerned about “ethical red flags” ?
In case you haven’t noticed, he is a pathological liar.
Come on Katie, lay off the Kool-Aid for a few days and
read something besides right wing propaganda.
Ms Wiesner. I went to Undergraduate at University of San Francisco, Graduate school at NYU and Harvard Business School. I was CEO of multinational companies in Malaysia, Hong Kong Venezuela, Canada and in the USA and lived and worked in other countries including Iran Singapore, Indonesia. My so called education does not matter a whit to many of you at MVTIMES posts who think I am an idiot due to my ideological preferences and my faith in God. I think I am well educated and have served in various profit making capacities but Keller for example thinks I poisoned people am a misogynist a racist a bigot and all the rest. Let it go on Harris education–it means very little. By the way working for the government in my view is time and grade and has very little to do with excellence so being a Senator and VP doesnt mean much to me because there is little accountability as there is in private enterprise. But there I go again making a fool of myself and being uninformed.
Fantastic, Andrew!
Andrew, I have often noted, and even tried to respond to, the religious intolerance aimed at you. My comments never made it, and eventually I gave up. For this, I apologize.
I am happy to read what you and everyone else has to say. Varied viewpoints are important to consider. Without them, we would all end up reinforcing our own worst ideas.
Thank you Ms. Lane. And you are the best wordsmith I have read in a very long time. Am I being obsequious? lol
Perfectly said Mr Engleman.
my my andy– aren’t you special !
I do like your last line.
Katie,
The competence level is extremely low for POTUS as we are currently witnessing. Biden is so incompetent that his own party cast him aside in a coup and have lowered the bar further by rallying around Kamala.
Carl, what?! You compare a failed businessman to a successful woman? And you find the woman lacking?
Not so sure you can say Trump is a failed businessman given he has in excess of a billion dollars. Yes he failed along the way but he got up and persevered. That’s what makes someone success. He didn’t quit like Biden. Kamala has her success’ too but not as VP. That’s what I’m looking at.
Carl—-trump is a successful crook.
Like El Chapo, given that he had in excess of a billion
dollars. Is that the metric to define “success” ?
Trumps legitimate businesses failed, again and again. and he declared bankruptcy again bad again.
At least El Chapo paid the people who worked
for him.
True, Carl. I want to say more about what has obviously gone down behind the scenes, but I’m still mulling it over. Sometimes it’s hard to put into words how ridiculous a situation has become.
For all of the talk about saving democracy, the opposite keeps presenting itself in various forms.
Katie, Andrew is right, you are careful with your words.
“For all the talk about democracy…” might be directed at me. I’m fully aware that there was 30% of the population who voted for Hitler. I’m fully aware that there is a similar number of Trump fans and supporters. There are many correlations between the two time periods. Obviously, Trump would not be a candidate if a number of people didn’t support him. Trump isn’t acting alone. The machine behind the conservatives at this point in time are dangerous to our country. Again, obviously, not everyone believes that. We are at the crossroads that Germany faced back in the 30s. Will we make the same choice?
Mary, we can say the same about liberals who are taking this country down the road to socialism and government dependency. You are voting for eventual tyranny.
“Katie, Andrew is right, you are careful with your words.”
I try to be when the subject matter is important.
” ‘For all the talk about democracy…’ might be directed at me.”
It wasn’t directed at you or anyone else here. If it were, I would’ve addressed you by name. I was referring to the national discussion as a whole, which is why I said it within the context of what has “gone down behind the scenes” of our government.
What I meant in short: Everything lately has come back to using the phrase “existential threat to democracy”, yet the party pushing that line is responsible for anti-democratic decisions of great consequence.
We’ve also had an assassination attempt with lingering questions about security. Not to mention an icy lack of concern from many of our citicizens. I am still rattled by this event.
My posts are not passive-aggressive. I aim to be straightforward. Please don’t read stuff into them that was not expressed.
As for the Hitler references, I cannot take anyone seriously on that front who does not acknowledge and stand against the left’s widespread, blatant, dangerous antisemitism, which includes cries for Jewish genocide on American streets.
What we’ve seen on college campuses is an almost exact recreation of what was done in 1938. It’s not a hypothetical.
I will never make the choice to support a second Holocaust. I’d sooner die.
Not at all, Andrew. 🙂 I have an intimidating project of sorts on deck. It requires a lot of writing, so the vote of confidence is appreciated!
Harris is not qualified, she cant string two sentences together and she has done nothing as VP. Good luck. We all know you have to put on a proud face but you are not serious deep down are you? Ok I must be a racist.
I guess a law degree, years as a District Attorney prosecuting criminals, 4 years as a Unites States Senator serving on the senate Judiciary Committee, and 4 years as the Vice President of the United States isn’t qualified? Please compare that to the twice impeached, insurrectionist, thief, convicted felon, rapist and grifter she’s running against. And let’s not forget pathological liar and serial cheater. She is more accomplished and successful than that 6-time bankrupted loser will ever be. Our party is beyond thrilled to have her leading the ticket and we are confident that we will beat that MAGA fascist disguised as a human being. Your last sentence says it all.
“we are confident that we will beat that MAGA fascist disguised as a human being.”
Really? This is what you’re putting out into the world, a mere ten days after an assassination attempt on the candidate whose human status you now refuse to recognize?
Knowing that one of our fellow citizens was murdered during said shooting? That it could easily happen again in a culture that spreads this brand of vitriol?
For someone who seems to consider herself a prominent voice in the party, this is especially vile and irresponsible. It’s a prime example of why people like me, who have voted blue in the past, are backing away from the sinking ship. There are more of us than you may assume.
Dislike Trump all you want. That shouldn’t excuse you from showing basic decency, particularly when preaching about how we need more of it in politics. Dehumanization from the self-styled compassionate side, or anyone else, has grown old. So much for embodying the change you claim to want.
Goʻ Katìe!
Cooper if you are the head of the Democratic Party on MV you ought to use more diplomatic words to push back on disagreement. This is not becoming.
andy– do you mean not becoming “of a woman”?
You have implied that you think women have a different
set of standards to meet than men in at least one comment
here.
But you know, I doubt I would be enthusiastic about
voting for a woman who bragged about grabbing
men by the crotch.
That would indeed be unbecoming —
She has articulated strung more than two sentences together in 3.5 years! I bet she can get Gavin Newsome to share the ticket!
And, you are admitting to being a racist!
You’re not a racist, just an idiot…how many words can #individual1 scramble in a word salad? Harris is a proven district attorney, former US senator and the current vice president. Basically, every cabinet level official who worked with #individual1 thinks he’s an idiot and a miserable human being. If I were raising a kid today, #individual1 would be a seinfeld episode…watch everything he does and do the opposite…he is the worst human being I know (although you are trying to get in that competition)…
And what were #individual1’s qualifications when he first ran? Impersonating John Miller? Cheating at golf? Sexual assault? Housing discrimination? Stiffing creditors? Gosh, Kamala doesn’t have any of those qualifications.
No, you’re not a racist. But you are uninformed. Harris can string two sentences together, she was a Prosecutor and the California Attorney General. As a Senator, I watched as she masterfully took on Kavanaugh, Pence and Jeff Sessions. As VP she performed as VP’s do, she did as she was instructed by the President, just like Pence and Biden before her.
I am putting on a proud face and deep down I am serious that she’s a fighter and will get the job done. Never Again Trump.
CCharlin,
What is your opinion of these brilliant sentences? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u6pIxbS5dc
“As VP she performed as VP’s do, she did as she was instructed by the President, just like Pence and Biden before her. ”
She did an especially great job as the “Border Czar.”
And, she gave an inspiring talk to school children about space.
How inspiring it is. It was really inspiring.
Katherine, I’m puzzled by some of your views. It’s hard for me to understand how a woman could support a man who s. assaults women, over another successful, hardworking woman. I know a woman who worked in a Republican White House and she said the vice president works harder than almost anyone at the White House.
This same woman made allegations against Les Moonves. Very suspect that she is targeted by such wealthy and influential men with no witnesses.
“It’s hard for me to understand how a woman could support a man who s. assaults women, over another successful, hardworking woman.”
Mary, I said earlier that Harris’s record in California reveals her to be unethical. A gross understatement. Frankly, I’m just too worn out to dissect her many cases right now.
But this story—this self-serving, inhumane failure concerning pedophilia—needs to resurface. I’ve never been able to forget it when her name comes up.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/sanfrancisco/news/clergy-abuse-survivors-question-sen-kamala-harris-record/
For anyone unfamiliar with the legal process, redaction truly is done all the time. Harris could’ve helped without violating privacy. Had a duty to help, in fact. Moral, ethical, and professional. Others in her position have done better. Done more.
She chose not to.
Will you still support her?
Will you continue to label her a success? Promote her as someone who should be respected? Who has a clean history?
Not intended as rhetorical. I would really like to know. Because I can’t overlook anything that involves predators and minors. To ignore, excuse, or otherwise enable it is disgraceful. That goes triple when you’re in a position of power, and she was.
I have been told that I must support this candidate because we are both female. In my book, part of being a woman is fighting to protect children. Then soothing the wounded survivors they sometimes have to become as adults.
Before anyone rushes to tell me, I’m aware that another attorney backed up Harris’s decisions. Tried to smoothe it all over.
It’s almost like more than one employee was willing to do the wrong thing and keep the Church happy.
The reason you are “puzzled over my views” is because what you consider my views is a hash of your own inferences.
I am not at all puzzled over your views: It is obvious to me that they are “informed” by yawning ignorance, preconceptions, and outright propaganda.
Katherine, you might have given an honest answer why you support Trump instead of dodging the question.
Katie, you’re right, just because a candidate is female doesn’t mean we should vote for them. I’m reminded of a video of Marjorie Taylor Greene harassing teenager, David Hogg, survivor of a school shooting. And news of Lauren Boebert groping her boyfriend at an event where children were present.
Maybe. We can agree to disagree on that assessment.
I don’t know if you’re racist. Or a misogynist. Or both.
Still makes her the best choice, though, right ?
The next Presidential debate will show all of us which candidate has better command of grammar, logic, and veracity. I also look forward to the sentence Judge Merchan strings together.
Rich and elite Dems are panicking and donating millions to her campaign. You know what they say about a fool and his money…
Peter– you are sooooo correct about fools and their money.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-26/bannon-associate-sentenced-for-trump-border-wall-fraud-explained/102639334
What do they say about a FOOL and HIS money?
Funny how forgetful dt’s supporters (you included) are. He was caught embezzling from his own businesses, caught stealing from a fake children’s charitable foundation (cancer),
acknowledged in a legal filing that he allowed his presidential campaign staff to coordinate with the Trump Foundation in holding a fundraiser for veterans during the run-up to the 2016 Iowa caucuses. The event was designed “to further Mr. Trump’s political campaign,” Scarpulla said, Trump suggested he was neither sorry nor in the wrong,
A judge Thursday ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million to an array of charities as a fine for misusing his own charitable foundation to further his political and business interests.
New York state Judge Saliann Scarpulla imposed the penalty after the president admitted to a series of abuses outlined in a lawsuit brought against him last year by the New York attorney general’s office.
Among other things, Trump acknowledged in a legal filing that he allowed his presidential campaign staff to coordinate with the Trump Foundation in holding a fundraiser for veterans during the run-up to the 2016 Iowa caucuses. The event was designed “to further Mr. Trump’s political campaign,” Scarpulla said.
In a defiant statement issued Thursday evening, though, Trump suggested he was neither sorry nor in the wrong.
“I am the only person I know, perhaps the only person in history, who can give major money to charity (19M), charge no expense, and be attacked by the political hacks in New York State,” He assailed a series of Democratic attorneys general of New York who wereTrump’s foundation will be dissolved and its $1.7 million in remaining funds will be given to other nonprofits, under agreements reached by Trump’s lawyers and the attorney general’s office.
As part of those agreements , made public Thursday, the two sides left it up to the judge to decide what penalty Trump should pay.
The settlement was an about-face for Trump. He had tweeted, “I won’t settle this case!” when it was filed in June 2018.
Attorney General Letitia James welcomed the resolution of the case as a “major victory in our efforts to protect charitable assets and hold accountable those who would abuse charities for personal gain.”
The president admitted, among other things, to arranging for the charity to pay $10,000 for a 6-foot portrait of him. He also agreed to pay back $11,525 in foundation funds that he spent on sports memorabilia and champagne at a charity gala, also accepted restrictions on his involvement in other charitable organizations. His three eldest children, who were members of the foundation’s board, must undergo mandatory training on the duties of those who run charities. also admitted in the agreements to directing that $100,000 in foundation money be used to settle legal claims over an 80-foot flagpole he had built at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, instead of paying the expense out of his own pocket.
In addition, the foundation paid $158,000 to resolve a lawsuit over a prize for a hole-in-one contest at a Trump-owned golf course, and $5,000 for ads promoting Trump’s hotels in the programs for charitable events. Trump admitted these transactions were also improper.
Just wanted you to know what you are donating to, I’d call him and con and lying thief.
I don’t contribute to any political candidates. It only encourages them!
Trump can not put a sentence together.
Does qualified mean convicted felon?
andy- And you think I should support the guy who praised the
revolutionary minutemen for taking over the airports
and winning the revolutionary war ?
The old guy who thinks Kansas city is in Kansas ?
The lost guy who thought he was visiting the town of “pleasure”
California after a fire ?
The demented pathological liar who used a sharpie in a truly
bazaarly childish way to alter the official forecast from the national Huricane Center
to “prove” he was correct about
his statement that huricane Dorian was going to
impact Alabama ?
At least he knows Puerto Rico is an island surrounded by water.
BIG WATER.
Don, please don’t forget that he took a photo from his cell phone and published top secret military intelligence, to the detriment of our country.
Andrew, you don’t think Harris is qualified???
I’m more qualified than Trump. His advantage was being a reality tv show person. He portion of the show was scripted for him.
I think that last two comments should have been directed towards DJT. Harris is an intelligent, experienced, articulate and compassionate leader, a self made person who, unlike DJT, is qualified and can represent all of America.
I am a Biden fan but am 100% behind Kamala Harris. The Democrats raised 81 million dollars in the first 24 hours and I am one of the excited proud donors.
The Republicans are now running scared and whose the old guy now? This twist in this political story is frankly hilarious!
Go team Blue! And thank you Joe Biden!
Don’t think Republicans are “now running scared.” I think most are looking forward to facing off against Kamala, the worst VP in history (TM). She is an empty suit. Unqualified for her current job and certainly not to be president (if Obama/Shumer/Pelosi ok the move.) It’s really a coup. An elected president was pushed out the door and the votes of millions of Democrats in the primaries were thrown out. So much for Democracy!
Peter, please explain how you think she could have done better as vice president.
The best vice president in our history so far, is Pence. What he did to protect our democracy and rule of law is noble.
Mike Pence, thank you for your service!
A serious question? She was non existent border czsr overseeing 10 million illegals break into the country…so far. We learned that she doesn’t think it’s illegal at all! She’s had a few other assignments but no noticeable achievements. Her speeches are embarrassing. Cackling Kamala. Her overseas ventures are disgraceful and unserious. She lied to the country for years that old joe wad healthy. They both should have been impeached for opening our Southern border!!
And the deploarables now have the oldest nominee in US history. Fake 45 is toast.
It would’ve been a lot easier for the Dems in November if our Vice President was picked for her competence instead of identity politics.
Joseph, her job skills are pretty impressive, even before she became vice president.
It’s fascinating to me that a failed businessman is given more credibility than a successful woman. Why is that?
This whole fiasco illuminates the snake pit that is today’s democrat party. Fascinating to see what we all suspected was going on behind the scenes. Not the party of JFK!
andy perhaps you would have a better understanding of her speaking
abilities if you watched something other than lying right
wing altered videos of her speaking.
You know, like the ones they slow down to make it
sound like she’s drunk. Or the ones where they just change what she is
saying. By the way your guy is now older than Joe was in 2020 when
he was too old..
I know right wing media won’t put this stuff up,
but it’s entertaining and horrifying at the same time to liberals.
https://www.rawstory.com/video-shows-32-times-trump-babbled-onnsense-or-got-confused-in-just-one-day/
note this is just one day–
Given your comments about the rights of women and the fact that you
enthusiastically support a guy who bragged about being able to sexually
assault women, apparently raped at least one,
and cheated on all three of his wives, I wonder if you are a misogynist ?
— Isn’t there something about
committing adultery in your sacred book ? You know, that one that
is the word of god.
And then there’s that guy I alluded to above
who hasn’t been in a church in years selling that book.
Why are you not offended ?
My ex wife , who I never cheated on, is very offended.
I don’t really know how you can claim to not be misogynistic.
You wouldn’t vote for Pete because god frowns upon his
sexual preferences. I have really looked at those commandments
and none of them say you can’t marry someone of your gender.
It clearly says you can’t cheat on your husband or wife.
Yet you are fine with trump for some reason.
Why is that , andy ?
What comments on the rights of women Keller?
This post is the textbook definition of gaslighting. We watched Kamala live talking in riddles and endless word salads. Come on Don you can do better. And now you want to make age an issue after repeatedly saying Bidens age was fine. But I am with you that given the last 3+ years that Kamal is qualified. Biden has lowered the bar that much. Be proud of being making an end run around democracy and disenfranchising the millions of voter that the elites said that mattered. Clearly they don’t and libs will justify this sham as somehow saving democracy. Makes sense, perfect sense to a liberal.
Carl, we are so lucky that we had Biden for president. Leaders all around the Free World breathed a sigh of relief when Biden was elected.
I would too if I was a foreign leader because he was weak and gave them billions of OUR DOLLARS.
Carl, which countries and billions for what projects? It’s easy for you to throw out statements with no evidence behind them. Show us the evidence.
What Carl said!
Don,
Harris begins speaking 30 seconds in. She was addressing European leaders with a home grown understanding of Europe’s history to the east and west. Listen to the brilliant Harris enlighten them about Ukraine and Russia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u6pIxbS5dc
sorry, John — did she get something wrong ?
Not to pick on former republican presidents,
but “W” — who was elected twice, said that
“Africa is a big country”
Do you disagree that Russia invading Ukraine was “wrong” ?
By the way,
If you want a geography lesson, watch this bright light bulb
describing to the American people where Puerto Rico is.
I think he was surprised to find out about this…
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-comments-island-big-water-a7975011.html
And of course Americans could use a geography lesson about Europe.
https://pro.morningconsult.com/instant-intel/can-americans-find-ukraine-on-a-map
When people criticize an accomplished female attorney on her ability to form coherent sentences or her intelligence, it raises questions about the motivations behind such statements since they are not based on facts. Kamala Harris has managed to string together enough sentences to prosecute cases successfully and build a notable legal career. It’s perfectly acceptable to disagree with her politics—such differences of opinion are respected. However, resorting to unfounded claims only undermines the credibility of your argument.
What are her politics? Who knows? What little she has said seems even further left than Biden. What has she accomplished in 3.5 years? She is the Border Czar and watched as 10 million illegal aliens crossed our Southern Border. California? It’s a failing state. Residents have had it with the Big Blue government and voted with their feet: they are fleeing at a fast rate. No, I have watched/listened to her for over 3 years. Not impressed. Democrats are desperate. There’s no way this woman deserves my vote. I’d rather sit this one out in protest. Liberals/Coastal Elites/Progressives etc. can write all the checks they want. Money cannot buy every vote and convince people what they have seen is not a train wreck. (It’s fun watching the Democrats scramble to cover up the fact that President Biden was unwell for months/years and that they will magically create a Frankenstein ticket at the last minute.)
Peter Yeah, she didn’t build that wall either.
What a failure.
At lease she didn’t have an official policy of separating
children from their families.
To this day, hundreds of children cannot be found
to be reunited with their families because the trump
administration didn’t bother to keep good
records when they tore toddlers from their
mother’s arms. So much for the party of “family”
Don, that’s because they were being trafficked. We separate families all the time when crimes are committed. We put them in foster care and make them wards of the state every day. So what do you think happens when a parent drives drunk and hurts someone? Do think we don’t separate them or do you think they both go jail? lol.
Sorry Carl– Jeff sessions stated that if you are smuggling
children in, you will be arrested.
It begs a question. If a woman crosses the border at a legal checkpoint and LEGALLY requests asylum, is she automatically
guilty of trafficking her own underage child ?
The problem with the “zero tolerance” policy is that it was
clearly illegal under existing immigration laws.
Sessions himself described it as a “deterrent”.
It automatically found you guilty and pulled screaming
children out of the arms of their mothers.
And someone here was concerned about
“ethical red flags” about Harris that she did not bother to tell us
about.
Is seems that enough Kool-Aid can cause hallucinations.
Build the damned wall! Funny Don, just saw story on tv that biden administration has lost many children in last few years. Hmmm. Biden should be impeached for open borders policy! Mayorkis too!
Peter– they already tried impeaching Mayorkis.
There is no “open border policy”
Show me some actual proof that your claim about
lost children is true. Yeah, I see that trump put the
number at 85,000– so it must be true.
Interestingly enough there is actually a grain
of truth to his statement.
But they are not toddlers that are taken from their mothers.
These are unaccompanied teenage “minors” under the age
of 18. Most of them went to family members, and just left those
households to work and live on their own. Try to tell
a 17 year old that you have just met because they are a distant
relative what to do.
If you can handle this, it might help you get a rational understanding about the issue is. It’s a 3 minute audio clip.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/19/1170802333/congressional-lawmakers-raise-concerns-about-the-welfare-of-migrant-children
Peter, in response to your comment that money cannot buy every vote—in Texas, Tim Dunn and his friends ARE buying every vote in the Texas legislature. They have been working toward that goal for 15+ years. And now they have moved on to South Carolina, North Carolina, South Dakota, North Dakota, and Montana. Surely other states as well.
Mr Seavey, hey are not unfounded claims. I have listened to her for almost 4 years and even before. She sounds like someone offering a book report on a book she hasnt read. She is not talented at BS as some on this site. She is awkward and meandering but perhaps she can raise her skills in the future.
Ross, thank you!
Predictable move. Harris was the Dems DEI pick in 2020. After running a miserable campaign and summarily trounced, she was hand-picked to “balance” the ticket. Since then, she had done nothing, NOTHING, to earn the title of VP. Border Czar? She’s more known for her confusing word salads than her accomplishments. Meanwhile. Barack Obummer is working overtime behind the scenes to orchestrate a complete reshuffling of the candidates. Harris may not survive his machinations. Grab your popcorn, folks. This is gonna get ugly. And the big question many should be asking…WHO is actually running the country now? Biden has disappeared. Our allies and enemies are watching closely. November 5th can’t come soon enough!
Peter, you might be interested in this this book, How Democracies Die by Steven Levitsky.
Empires die slowly, then quickly. One sure sign is unprotected borders. Another is exploding budgets. Another is loss of faith in government (see biden administration), FBI, DHS, USSS, States attorneys, weak law enforcement, corruption, urban crime, a shrinking military, inflation, etc. Read up on your Greek and Roman history!
What Peter said!!!
We were told earlier this month that only god almighty could get Biden to step down. I wonder if the second coming is here.
This ends the big lie Democrats have been telling about the president for at least a year —that he is in full control of his mental faculties and full of vigor and vim. Nobody believed it
Now that Mr. Biden tells us he and his team were telling tales all along, Americans are likely to feel a little upset at being deceived.
“I had a bad night” I was sick and exhausted from all the debate prep’’. That was nonsense, but his minions nevertheless repeated the party line. Americans don’t like being played for fools. That’s what Mr. Biden and the Democrats did, until they couldn’t do it anymore. Republicans produced “cheap fake” videos of Mr. Biden looking lost and confused we are told. The gaslighting of America continues….. earlier Kamala Harris had one of the lowest approval ratings of any Vice President ever (28%!), but now she’s the best thing since sliced bread according to the MSM. However, no one has mentioned one accomplishment, one project, or one decision that Harris has gotten right. Because there aren’t any. She’s been a disaster as a VP. America has wised up to these media manipulations and the election in November will prove it. Now we have another hologram running for President whose strings are pulled by more unseen, unelected hands. Threat to democracy? These dems are beyond a threat. They are in the bag for Democrats. They will promote a dead skunk if it means beating Trump. Comparatively, the poor critter might do less harm than Harris.
Harris is the Forrest Gump of politicians. She was nobody that nobody wanted or ever voted for
Like JD Vance, a Senator.
andy–God works in strange ways sometimes.
Or if she isn’t doing anything, some people think she is.
For instance, I have never met a priest or a minister who
won’t tell you that they were “called” by god herself
to dedicate their lives to her service.
Most born again’s that I know think they had a direct and
personal interaction with their “savior”.
Who are you to say that god herself didn’t intervene and have
a one on one personal conversation with Biden ?
It’s obvious that she did, as Joe quit the race.
It’s obvious that she wants Kamala to be president.
She even tried to kill trump a few weeks ago.
If we are going to talk about gaslighting and deception
it’s pretty clear which party has been hoodwinked by the snake oil salesman.
In his acceptance speech at the convention he lied at least
22 times in 92 minutes — a blatant lie every 4 minutes for an hour
and a half. I think even you would admit that the world was not at
peace when trump left office. He got a good round of applause
for that one. He again said the election was stolen.
he said crime was going up. and on and on and on.
And you think Americans are upset about being deceived?
Come on andy– even you could not care less about someone
who is a pathological liar. Unless of course, they are lying about things
you would like to believe.
Here is a real fact checker fact checking trumps acceptance
speech. How about watching it, and tell me which
of the things Mr. Dale has wrong ?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/19/politics/video/fact-check-daniel-dale-trump-rnc-speech-digvid
81 million people voted for Harris in the 2020 election.
It seems the pathological lying is wearing off on some of
trumps minions.
What Andrew said!
In your tenth line: Americans were “played for fools.”
Nope, not “played”… they volunteered.
An excellent synopsis.
If you wanna vote for a woman, vote for Jill Stein.
I like Nikki Haley! Smart, young woman of color. Checks a lot odlf boxes for democrats obsessed with identity politics.
In this iteration Mr Engleman has opted for his capital letters. The big lie he suggests pales in comparison to the Big Lie that ex-president Trump has been limping along on for nearly four years: that the 2020 election was stolen from him, that our country is in shambles, that none other than the criminally insane are flooding over the border, that the economy is crashing.
Now, check with every reliable metric you have at hand: if you have a retirement account, how is that doing? Have you seen the unemployment numbers lately? Has any one of you noticed that violent crime numbers have dropped since Biden took office? Border crossing numbers? Has any noticed a dramatic return in manufacturing jobs to our shores, thanks to the CHIPS Act? Are you truly paying attention?
Trump accomplished none of these things. Neither did Harris. But she can pick up Biden’s baton. It’s not a difficult choice.
Chilmark/Pennsylvania
God help us if KH gets in. She’s a San Francisco open borders liberal.
Andrew, check out this new book by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Anne Applebaum, Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the World.
She claims that Donald Trump is similar in some ways to some Central Asian leaders and Africans, and also Putin. She also talks in her book about how Putin wants to end democracy in the world.
Ms Hansen I am not a fan of Putin nor Zelensky. Both of them are corrupt. My posts are not about Trump but about Harris.. Frankly I think she can beat Trump and Trump needs to be very careful and not take her or the Dem party for granted. Millions of Americans know nothing and millions are ideologically in her camp just as I am in Trumps camp not for his character or persona but for his policies’.
Even better stated.
Andrew has already been proven right about not underestimating. I said that I don’t believe Harris can win because overcoming her chronic (dis)approval ratings seemed like a too-tall order. There was talk of rebranding her, but that sounded even more impossible for someone who’s been in the public eye a long time.
I was wrong. They’ve convinced the TikTok crowd that Kamala is cool by hitching her to a trending pop singer. All it took was an account done in lime green (to match the popular album of the summer) and poof, the same college kids who’ve been repping Hamas are fans. No substance, no issues discussed. Just “Kamala is brat” [sic] gone viral. Which was obviously a planned endorsement.
Only in America will people get excited about am empty three-word tweet and ask what it means after the fact. They like the hype, not the candidate, And the media’s pretending that the hype—their creation—is authentic. Harris herself called this age group stupid. Now she’s targeting them for support.
I remember life before TikTok’s influence. It was nice.
Andrew, you like Trump’s policies? Like how he destroyed the livelihood of soybean farmers and some lost their farms? Or his policy that increased our prices of steel products, like cars and caused massive inflation? Or his desire to dismantle our Constitution so he can copy Putin so we don’t need elections anymore?
NO THANK YOU!
Very well stated Mr. Engelman
Hornswaggling 101, it can happen to anyone.
How to identify when it happens to you:
Everyone who supports and donates to Harris and pretends that she, Dr Jill, every interviewer, and every Biden aide isn’t a liar who acted as though Biden hasn’t been lost and unfit and on his last legs all these months has been hornswaggled by a complex group of liars with their own agenda. Dems are liars as much as anyone. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been donated to this liar’s campaign. Deceitful, useful idiots and antisemites who go around announcing that defending and protecting citizens from terrorist animals is a form of genocide, support Harris— not a cult I’m joining. The anti vaxer got this one right this time. Even a broken clock is correct 2x a day.
You have to be smart to get into law school, pass the bar, and make a career as a prosecutor. Really smart people know when to shut up, however, as these comments prove. Harris does not even know when a sentence ends. Some people simply like to hear themselves talk, be vulgar, and laugh maniacally. You know?
A “donation” stops being a donation and becomes a narcissistic plea to be liked, especially when you publicly boast online you’ve donated to this or that cause. I’m slightly embarrassed for the people who do that, especially when it’s a repeat performance. One hornswaggled waffler on here wanted his money back from the ADL because he couldn’t get his hatred for Israel and Jews under control. Dunning-Kruger. No clue.
Jackie I said I was considering stopping my donations to the ADL
because of the way the Israeli government is conducting the
war It was a statement of protest . I never said I wanted the money
back. I think the ADL does good work, and I have supported them.
Perhaps after Netanyahu is in jail I will continue to financially support
them. While we are talking about donations,
let me take the opportunity right here to encourage people
to donate to the Harris campaign. It’s easy– Here is a
link to a reputable respected and secure site. And tell all your friends
to donate also. Thanks. Do it now– It only takes a minute.
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/electharris-ab-no-link?akid=399017.27988573.ndrMG1&rd=1&refcode2=399017_27988573_ndrMG1&t=4
Jackie– I hope you can still comprehend that when you use terms like
“terrorist animals” to describe the people of a culture of religious beliefs, cultural
heritage and ethnic backgrounds, you are following the playbook that Adolph Hitler
used to ascend to power and perpetrate the Holocaust.
Hitler often described the jews as “animals”.
The genocide in Rwanda was preceded by radical racist radio host
describing the Tutsi’s as “cockroaches” .
Your rhetoric is no less offensive or inflammatory than that
of Adolph Hitler or the racist Hutu’s that egged the genocide in
Rwanda on.
Your comment is reprehensible, racist, and encourages violence.
Sorry, Jackie, your culture does not get a pass because you think
your culture is superior to others.
I am sure many Jewish people are horrified by your slanderous and
racist comments– that is not what the Jewish culture is about .
Keller, Hamas has no culture and they are terrorist animals. Jackie has it right. And Palestinians who support Hamas are uncultured terrorist barbarians. Only you could see it otherwise.
Actually, andy, what I see is radical islamophobes calling for
the genocide of what they perceive as ‘terrorist animals”.
Wow– your use of words is quite revealing.
“uncultured terrorist barbarians” ?
And then you claim you are not a racist ?
I disagree with your statement that there are no innocent
Palestinians. Could any statement be more blatantly racist?
Come on andy– if I said that all christians supported the
pedophillia priests that infested the Catholic church, and they were
all pedophiles in at least thought, how could you object ?
They go to church, donate money to an organization that
has defended pedophiles, hidden the truth about it, and covered
it all up. Only you could see that all Christians are not pedophiles
by your logic.
Uncultured barbaric pedophiles — Yeah– I spent 8 early
years of my life under the thumb of those terrorist.
And let’s not forget about the “late great Hannibal lecter”
that trump is praising lately. What a great guy– Do you actually think
that trump knows he was not a real person ?
I think trump actually thinks Hannibal was a real person who was
unfairly prosecuted for his habit of eating people.
They were all likely democrats after all.
No problem.
Keller your rant is disorganized. Evangelical Christians do not have Priests as in the Catholic Church. The entire pedophile scandal has been focused on the Catholic Church. Could there be a pedophile of two in Protestant Churches? of course. Your logic leads one to believe that the Nazis were not barbarians and we need to respect their culture. I have repeatedly told you that man is totally depraved and in need of a savior and no one is an exception. Yes some cultures have have contributed more than others and some cultures are barbaric. If that is racism so be it.
Keller, you don’t know what you’re talking about, but that never stops you.
Kamala Harris is smart, thoughtful, experienced and has a sense of humor. She will continue to work for the policies of the Biden-Harris administration that have been helping all Americans in the last three and a half years (except maybe the billionaires 🙄). I support her fully and it is so exciting to see people, especially young people, jumping on board! Kamala is Brat!!
Kathy check the poles, young people and even BLM are not behind her. This bump you are seeing will soon crater. The MSM is lying to you about how great she is. It’s journalistic malfeasance. How do you go from being less popular than the least popular president to the most popular in 24 hours. This is a joke.
Carl, you crack me up! 🤣
You call the mainstream media (therefore the MV Times) as exercising journalistic malfeasance, and at the same time you ALLOW them to publish your views! 🤣🤣
Mary, no disrespect to the MV Times but I wouldn’t call them the mains stream media.
Glad I made you chuckle and although I don’t understand your gullible way of thinking I admire your total commitment to it.
Carl, just the facts. You may think that people who are disagree with you are gullible, when perhaps they just want to focus on cold, hard facts.
She was a terrible candidate and was soundly thrashed by the other Democrats. She’s only gotten worse since then. Shows how desperate the DNC/Hollywood/Silicon Valley/Coastal Elites have become. Sad really…
Peter (and Carl), you use the word “elites” as if it is a derogatory term. The word elite means someone is the best at something, such as an elite athlete.
You happen to be using it the way Hitler did in his propaganda to make regular people feel disenfranchised. Conservatives today are using it as a propaganda tool to make their constituents feel disenfranchised as well.
Carl– BLM issued an articulate, honest and thoughtful
statement. Shalomyah Bowers, a Black Lives Matter leader, said:
“This is not an attack on Kamala Harris or Black women,
and right now we aren’t questioning Kamala’s
qualifications or capabilities. This is about the nominating process.”
That’s about as close of an endorsement as you’re gonna get.
And where do you get the idea that young people are not behind her ?
“In a Biden-Trump race, the split among 18- to 34-year-olds was 53% for Biden and 47% for Trump, giving Biden a 6-point lead.
But in a Harris-Trump contest, the same respondents split 60% for Harris and 40% for Trump — a 20-point lead for Harris.
45% of young people say they have an extremely or somewhat favorable opinion of Harris.
33% say the same for Biden, along with 34% for Trump.”
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/25/poll-harris-biden-trump-young-voters
It seems like you have been hoodwinked by some
” journalistic malfeasance” .
It might be a joke, but I think the joke might be on you.
I am still trying to figure out what the Biden Harris Administration has done to benefit people like me, the working class American taxpayer. The one true conclusion is that I have less of my own money all the way around and it will only get worse if Harris takes the helm. Please no.
I am with Kamala Harris. It would be nice to have an educated woman as President.
Neither Harris or Biden will be at Capitol tomorrow to hear and talk with prime Minister Netenyahu. How’s that for profiles in courage? Israel is one of our best allies. Biden is unwell and disappearing before our eyes, but Harris is, for now, the democrats presidential candidate. Embarrassing. Shameful. Disqualifying.
Put Harris up against Bibi is like putting a kindergarten kid against Churchill. This what American politics has degraded to.
Peter, what would you have her do?
Shame on over 20 democrats who are skipping prime minister netayahu’s speech today in congress. As we have seen at the anti=Israel protests on college campuses this year, the democratic party is anti Semitic. Kamala harris is now front and center on this issue. Shame on her. I’m watching live as most congressman cheer on the leader of our most important ally. November 5th can’t come soon enough!
Thank you, Peter. Democrats have succeeded only in losing many Jewish votes. I just wonder when useful idiots will realize what their behavior means. My guess is NEVER. I won’t be surprised when they start holding up the International Court as some sort of decider of justice. It really is idiotic. And just so sad.
And Harris, as VP, was obligated to preside over Congress today. She chose to boycott.
Peter– you do know that Netanyahu has been charged with war crimes by the
international court, right ?
He has also been charged with corruption, fraud and “breech of trust” in his
own country. He faces 10 years in jail if convicted.
He of course calls it a “witch hunt”.
People with ethics and morals shun those kind of thugs.
Many do not like him. I get it. And yet, he’s the elected leader of a country at war on every front. If he’s convicted, so be it. Until then, we must support him in Israel’s existential war of survival. Methinks many Democrats in Washington are against Israel no matter what. The Squad is made up of long-time anti-Semites. The college protests were an ugly expression of anti-Semitism in our so-called elite schools. No Don, this issue runs far deeper than the Prime Minister. It’s a cancer that has spread from the Middle East to Europe and now the US. Kamala Harris is just one of many Democrats who have a lot to answer for. Stand Up for Israel!
Peter– The protests at college campuses were portrayed
as “pro Palestinian” by left leaning media and “Anti Israeli”
by right leaning media.
And this is why a US President needs total immunity, regardless of party.
Keller: the International Court of Justice is well known for their antisemitic bias. And they have no power whatsoever. Everyone seems to know this, except antisemites who hold the “court’s” Jew-hating opinions in high regard. Don’t you have google so you can look this stuff up?
No one cares about the ICC. It has no authority and no power and it does the bidding of the UN which is corrupt. Only left wing people would hail the ICC as a paragon of virtue.
You don’t know the difference between the ICC and the ICJ.
Go the back of the room!
Make America Great Again
James, America is great right now. Has been great for a very long time. However, as China continues to expand their renewable energy sources, and their country continues to save millions, then billions, then trillions of dollars by not buying fossil fuels, then it will be China that will be great again. For real.
Really Mary? China is buying up oil products as fast as it can from the likes of Iran and Russia. Do you not read the papers? (Suggest you subscribe to the WSJ as you clearly need to expand your news sources.) China is practicing merchantile warfare on the West by selling cheap energy products and EV cars overseas. Meanwhile, they pollute more than the US and Europe combined! They operate more coal-fired plants than anyone and are building more coal-fired plants every day. Please do not hold China up as a model for anyone! It is a dystopian police state run by a cruel, corrupt dictator who is pushing for global hegemony, damn human rights and the environment!
Peter, your views on China are exactly why the Chinese are going to be successful at some of their endeavors: you continue to believe and tell others that the Chinese are not invested in renewable energy and that they aren’t really saving all that money. Keep believing it. Brush up on your Chinese language skills in the meantime.
Well put Peter……..After reading through the comments, it is apparent that we are in trouble. There are so many that are either negligent of the facts or just brainwashed.
Richard, perhaps we should have a quiz and see about the facts.
Make America Modern.
It is sad to say we do not have much to be proud about- Senate andCongress leave alot to be desired and we sure do not have much of a presidential choice – millions of dollars are being wasted advertising these B team people for president-i doubt if any student at mv regional could tell you the difference between a republican and a democrat who their senator and congress person is and what their jobs entail -a HARVARD CLASS could not do it either but that just does not make it ok — most voters dont know anything about real issues and what can really be done about it -too bad
Trip, I was asking someone, an adult, yesterday if they were aware of the difference between fascism and communism. They had no idea. The republicans in the US are voting in ways that are moving us closer to fascism. Hitler is an example of a fascist.
There we go with the Hitler comparison again. Right on cue. Good for you, Mary!
Thank you, Peter.
Never a single vote for her to be President ever! A failed DEI poster child.
John, you have expressed who you support and in the US we all have the right to vote for whomever we want, even if they are convicted felons. We also have the right to not vote. In Putin’s Russia, people cannot opt out of voting. They cannot vote for the “wrong” candidate. Why does any American want to be friends with Putin, let alone a presidential candidate?
John– Yup, it’s terrible that some people think that we should
be diverse, equitable and inclusive towards people who are
not white christian men.
What are they thinking ?
Here we go again with the Liberal/Democrat/Progessive default mode. If you don’t like Kamala (or Obama) then you are a racist and against diversity. LOL. Kamala is an empty suit who has proved she is incompetent and unserious for her current job, much less a promotion. Let’s stick to the facts. Her record is highly suspect.
You are wrong. Biden stated that he was going to pick an African – American woman no matter what to be his Vice President. Are you insinuating that the only competent “diverse” VP candidate was Harris? Are you saying that all African Americans and Women are inherently unqualified yet we must promote them no matter what? That’s scary!
John, not all men are as competent as some women.
John, when picking a qualified candidate for any job, usually, there are many candidates who can do the job. There are many women of color who could act as vp of the US and do a fine job. I personally know at least three others. Biden picked one. Harris may or may not have been the absolute best one. But she was one of several who were qualified. She is “good enough.”
Unlike 45 who is truly unqualified.
Never a single vote for a convicted felon.
Or a person of color…
Sad that so many of you still have high praise for trump (… yes , l used a small “t” as such a small excuse for a man deserves small insignificant letters!).
Kamala Harris deserves much respect for all she has done since getting her coveted law degree. All of you who doubt her accomplishments need to pay a bit more attention to the news!!!
Donna, we are focused on her job in the last 3.5 years. We don’t care about California, which is a failing state thanks to politicians like Kamala and Gavin Newsome. Ms. Harris is another far left California elite, reportedly worth between $7 and $12 million. Not bad, hey? Ms. Harris has accomplished exactly NOTHING since going to the White House, except telling us repeatedly that Old Joe is sharp and energetic (a lie). Many stories in the news have related to how sloppy her office is and that over 90% of her staff have quit. That can’t be good. She has never worked in the private sector and has NO clue how most Americans live. Americans are not fooled by the Democrats’ and the liberal media’s razzle dazzle show. They see her for what she is: an empty suit.
Is she a convicted felon?
A rapist?
So a billionaire is more trustworthy and responsible. Is he less capable to lie, cheat and make up false statements than an educated female so now we are comparing a billionaire, lying, felon, and other to a millionaire, hard working, woman?
Peter– It seems that there have been a lot of
talk of “failing” companies over the last 8 years.
How long has the New York Times been “failing ” for?
How about Disneyland ? Bud light ? The school systems,
alt energy companies, EV sales etc. And don’t forget our
part time resident and expert on all things financial
said that Tesla would be bankrupt in a matter of months
about 3 years ago.
It seems a high turnover rate of the staff was seen as a good thing
when a “strong” leader had a high turnover rate and got rid
of all the incompetent fools that he hired.
And you don’t really think trump has any idea of how
most Americans live, do you ?
Tesla reported $1.1 billion in net income for Q1 2024.
$442 million of that net income came from federal carbon credits.
386,000 Teslas were sold in Q1 2024, and the overwhelming majority were the Model 3 and Model Y, which are each eligible for the $7,500 Federal EV tax credit.
4. In addition to the $7,500 Federal EV tax credit, many states have EV rebates that can be stacked onto the federal credit.
Even if you were to assume only a ridiculously small percentage of the 386,000 EV buyers qualified for the $7,500 EV rebate, that collective rebate amount would overwhelm the remaining $658 million in net income.
For example, assuming only 40% of the buyers of the 386,000 Teslas that were sold in Q1 received the $7,500.00 rebate, that would total $1.155 billion, which alone amounts to more than 100% of Tesla’s total net income.
The bottom line is that carbon credits and EV rebates (both provided for by the federal government) are responsible for over 100% of Teslas’ net income.
The US taxpayers are the ones keeping Elon Musk in the black. There is no other single person in American history who has received more financial benefit from Washington DC handouts than Elon Musk and Tesla. He is certainly the king of socialist handouts.
Andrew, and yet, he is still a conservative. Go figure
Andrew, the oil industry is starting to influence Elon Musk. Perhaps pressure from the oil industry is one of the reasons that Musk pulled back on creating more charging stations.
You stated that the net income (not profits) for Tesla is 1.1 billion. That is a tiny fraction of the profits (yes, profits) from the oil industry. Perhaps you could be so kind and illustrate just how massive the oil profits are in the world.
The oil barons can buy Elon Musk with their spare pocket money.
Peter, it’s interesting that you call California a failing state. Did you know that the GDP for California is so large, that if it was a country, it would rank sixth in the world, only behind the United States, China, Japan, Germany, and the UK.
California has a bigger GDP than India!
California’s success is due partly to Kamala Harris.
I trust that the partisan Democrats interviewed for this story spoke of Scamila’s competence with straight faces.
Coincidentally, she received just as many Delegates as I did in 2020.
What Joseph said.
Anyone who is questioning the qualifications of a woman who is highly educated AND experienced AND has been in public service for decades – you’re showing your own racism, sexism and fear. It’s a subtle and sly form of bigotry to say that a black woman with so many credentials is not “qualified.” I hear women saying it and that is sad. Maybe you’ve been hearing that since she became VP from Trump and FOX, don’t buy into it. Try to actually look at the person, look at her credentials and her work. Do the same for Trump.
Seriously Joanne? That’s what you are taking out of this conversation? Racism? Sexism and Fear? That’s a weak argument. It’s not new though. Democrats use these as their default setting when their candidates face serious scrutiny. I never liked Obama and didn’t vote for him. So that makes me racist? I didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton so therefore I must be sexist? I’m not voting for Kamala so that makes me guilty of all the above? Cammon, Joanne. You can do better than that. Let’s stick to the facts. Kamala is a weak candidate no matter how you slice it. (See my comments in this thread for specifics.) I voted for Nikki Haley, a woman of color. I think she’s far better than Donald Trump. So are we friends now?
I find your comment racist and sexist, Joanne, but I doubt the majority will dig deep enough to see why. I also doubt it’s worth the time to explain in full.
For starters, you are assuming that those criticizing Harris are viewing her as “other”.
Wrong. Not everyone here is white. Minorities are allowed to use the internet and assess politicians in 2024, too. There is no law that says we must do so favorably, especially in the face of poor performance.
Years of service don’t mean anything without results. There are plenty of politicians—male and female, Black and white, liberal and conservative—who have not delivered on their promises.
There’s more to be said, but I’m tired.
Katie, Joanne is making a fair rebuttal to people who are telling lies about Kamala Harris. Joanne would defend you if people were telling lies about you. It’s unfair of you to call her comment racist and sexist because you disagree with her.
Sorry Mary but people pointing out that Kamala is not ready to be president is not misogynistic or racist and that was Katie was saying. The media is literally rewriting history and removing articles that they once wrote about her to cover up her incompetence
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/07/26/harris-biden-border-czar-most-liberal-senator/74540981007/
You Mary, don’t get to try and shame someone for not group thinking like you liberals. Someone else suggested that you explore other news resources and you would be wise to do so.
Katie called the comment racist and sexist because that’s what it is. Katie is more exacting and careful with her words than any other commenter on here. You can disagree with her opinion and that would make you wrong.
Harris deserves the criticism she is getting. And more. NO one voted for her. It’s un democratic to give her all those dem delegates when no one voted for her and when she has done not a single thing to deserve them. Nothing. Even the Obamas could barely endorse her, waiting until they wouldn’t look so bad by not jumping on the bandwagon to shove Camila down the throat of America— and that’s saying something.
Thank you, Jackie. When Harris ran for president before, she performed terribly within her own party. For years her approval ratings have been quite low, and not just among conservatives. Where was all of this support and admiration for her then?
The public has been lied to for years about Biden, yet we’re now supposed to trust, as you said, someone who perpetuated that lie with the most important role in government.
Mary, what lies are being told here about Harris? I’ve read various opinions, which do not constitute lies. I’ve also read some facts that can be backed up. I don’t see untruths.
Every candidate should be examined closely. They are, after all, seeking enormous power. We’ve had nearly a decade of daily talk about the Republican nominee, much of it far less civil than this. Biden has been discussed. So was Hillary Clinton when she was running.
Do Harris’s supporters believe she should be exempt from criticism? If so, why? That’s unrealistic. Everyone is free to share their thoughts on our leaders, positive or otherwise. That’s the spirit of democracy. We observe, we assess, we vote. The remarks under this article are actually milder than what most pols receive. I’m not understanding the upset.
I never call anyone racist or sexist for merely disagreeing with me. A misdirected accusation, seeing as Joanne took that exact approach. I said that I see racism in her words because she made a blanketing, race-based judgment on our perspectives without knowing who’s posting. It’s not good to assume things of people, let alone insult them over it.
Prejudice is real. There are Americans who would not approve of Harris no matter how she performed, solely based on her heritage and sex. I know this all too well. It is a terrible fact of life, and it has no place in politics.
However—and that’s a big ‘however’—there is plenty of evidence that Kamala does not communicate effectively with the public, among other concerns raised. I believe the criticism on this site is warranted. Fair. Merit-based, not identity-based.
I have said the same about men who underperform. I didn’t want Biden to run in 2020 because the writing was on the wall about his weaknesses. There are multiple Black commentators on Youtube who have covered Harris’s shortcomings. Are they bigoted for doing so? No.
As for sexism. . . I’ve never heard anyone tell a man that he must support another man strictly because of their shared manliness. Guys can use whatever criteria they want to vote and opine. I am expected—oddly enough, only by women—to withhold, or even change, my genuine criticisms because I’m female and so is the candidate.
I’m sorry. I can’t abide. That would be like stripping myself of the right to think freely, the antithesis of an equal existence. In all aspects of life, I try to support *people* based on their behaviors and values. Male or female. Women are fully capable of achievement. Of leadership. They don’t need me to lower my expectations.
Doesn’t mean every last one of us is cut out for POTUS. Same goes for the menfolk. It’s an almost impossible role to fill properly because it requires so many different skills to coexist in one hopeful.
Most of us average potatoes have, like, three tricks on a good day.
Katie, if I were president of the US, I would surround myself with a large team of smart people (like you) and not pretend I could do the job myself. It isn’t necessary to have all the skills myself.
And if we were to see Harris and Trump onstage together, we would quickly see that Harris is more capable than trump.
Katie, yes, absolutely, presidential candidates are seeking tremendous power. And the oil industry has no intention of giving up the power they have. Trump was so reluctant to give up that power that he staged January 6th.
PBS published an article quoting Trump saying that it’s great that China has a president for life and maybe we will in the US too. Is that why Trump didn’t pack his boxes 📦 in the White House until January 20th?
So Joanne, every lawyer is qualified?, every senator is qualified? Every black woman is qualified? She has been VP under the worst administration in history and this is why I think she is unqualified. Please articulate what she has done as VP to change my mind. I can’t think of a thing. Didn’t Biden put her in charge of the border? So if you measure her open door policy that she was for in her debate then I guess she is a success but we as a country don’t want open borders.
Carl, just because you say that Biden has the worst administration ever doesn’t make it true. Biden was busy working across the aisle trying to hammer out difficult and important legislation. History will remember him differently than you do.
Yes, as the president who lied to the American people that he was fit to be commander in chief. The footnote will be his high inflation, open border, green new scam, and the true threat to democracy.
Carl, the high inflation that we used to have was seeded and began growing by Trump when he decided that we needed more tariffs (punishments to China that AMERICANS paid for) on steel and other goods. The Chinese retaliated by adding tariffs to soybeans AND by asking Brazil to grow soybeans for them. We no longer have the soybean market, Brazil does. It also strengthened, in a permanent way, the political ties between China and Brazil. Trump single handedly damaged our farmers, our steel manufacturers, our car manufacturers, and our diplomatic relations between China and Brazil.
Threats to democracy increase when we create opportunities for communist countries to collaborate and cut us out of world markets.
Carl, Trump could, arguably, be blamed for the open border. Biden worked very hard to create a bipartisan deal to solve immigration issues and Trump asked Republican lawmakers to kill the deal.
Carl, question for you—in your eyes, what is the green new scam?
Decision 2024 – the prosecutor or the convicted rapist.
Albert– let me keep you honest here. trump is not a convicted
rapist– he was found to be civilly liable for slandering a woman he
raped, but he was never convicted of rape.
Like OJ Simpson– He was never convicted of murder,
but was found civilly liable for killing his ex wife and her companion.
So let’s just keep it real, and simply point out that trump does have 34 felony
convictions.
Don, trump is a convicted felon. Trump was found liable for rape (meaning he IS a rapist). There is no issue to put the two terms together. Maybe Albert wanted a comma.
Don,
Let me help you now. Trump did note rape this woman. There are different standards for rape, sexual assault and abuse.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/01/29/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll/72295009007/
Not surprising in New York do you have elected running on “get trump”. In all NY cases the state had to twist themselves into pretzels to Trump up charges against him. But somehow Trump is a threat to Democracy
Reading the “comments “ in this article has been some of the funniest read in the longest time – as if what you “contributors” write is going to change the outcome of the upcoming election.
Suggest you rent a conference room at the Mansion House and have a wrestling match. That would be even more fun to watch than read.
Time will tell, and it will not have anything to do with this “fun”
Eben, you’re right. The Island will not decide the election. It never does. But some of us will be voting in swing states. Others would simply like a place to discuss the major issues facing our country.
I wish I could read about politics and find it as entertaining as you seem to. Unfortunately, I hate the topic. In the interest of being an adult-y person, I try to keep up.
Fun doesn’t enter the picture.
Katie, you’re right. It isn’t all fun and games. The Chinese are quietly flanking us while we’re fat, dumb, and happy playing our shootemup video games.
Here’s a thought: since biden is unwell, maybe he needs to step down. Give kamala some experience running the country. Patriotic democrats should invoke the 25th amendment now. The country cannot go on this way for another 5 1/2 months!!
A vacuum in the Oval Office emboldens our nation’s adversaries.
Invoke the 25th Amendment NOW.
Brian, want to see our adversaries emboldened? Trump said he would let Russia take Ukraine. Ukraine is acting as a buffer between communist Russia and Democratic Europe. We are currently part of NATO, which protects democracy around the world, including Europe and the United States.
Or we can watch another adversary, China, be emboldened when we allow them to take the lead in the renewable energy industry.
We cannot underestimate how influential $2 trillion in savings will be for China.
Here’s a thought: Perhaps the country needs a Democratic candidate who has been chosen by means of a transparent, relatively (sn/) honest process. The whole country has witnessed the show put on by the Dems and has a pretty good idea of the backroom dealing and arm twisting that resulted in the current situation whereby Kamala was chosen. Mainly, I suspect, because she is chosen to take the fall. There is no one else available.
The party that drones on constantly about “protecting our democracy” is, after its series of extended lies and late-night coups, an international laughingstock.
Katherine, your comments about Biden being chosen and there was a coup is the republican party line, propaganda put out by the conservative party machine.
It isn’t factual.
Kamala Harris hasn’t done anything for the last 3 and half years???? Tell me what Mike Pence did in the 4 years….Nothing!
Assuming you’re right, Donna, nobody tried to promote Pence to the Oval Office based on that nothing. That’s the key difference.
When working for a private company, you generally don’t move up until you’ve proven yourself. I think it’s nuts that elected officials—and I mean all of them—are not held to this sensible standard.
Very few people are qualified to be president in my opinion. Kamala Harris is by no means alone in that. She’s the only one being assessed because she’s the candidate who was put in place without the voters’ say-so.
Katie, it’s obvious from the polls that Kamala has the voter’s say-so.
And, knowing some of the people who have worked in the White House, I take offense to the idea that no politicians are qualified. Just because trump isn’t qualified and he embodies some of the worst human qualities, doesn’t mean all politicians are that way. George HW Bush was truly a patriotic hero. (And not a patriot in the way that the Patriot Front is just a morphed name for the kkk).
I didn’t say that no politician is qualified. I said it’s a difficult job and they should all be held to a high standard in terms of performance. I came to this conclusion long before Trump entered politics.
No, it is not clear that Harris has the vote. The polls I’ve seen are pitting her against the Republican ticket. She hasn’t won a primary in the presidential slot.
We the public did not directly choose her to replace Biden in this race.
Donna, to be fair, I made a previous comment about how the vp is one of the hardest working members of the White House.
Agree. But he isn’t running for President, Kamala is. See the difference?
Carl, Donna is right, Kamala has an excellent education, she has been working hard for our nation, and it’s a wonderful thing that she has chosen to run for president.
Reading this thread makes me hopeful -spirited mostly respectful debate about who is eminently more qualified to lead the largest economy in the world, to uphold the rule of law, to respect all of the rights that the Constitution guarantees, to represent every citizen, who wakes up every morning thinking what can WE get done today, who will be respected by all of our allies, who makes us feel good about who we are, who unites us not divides us, who has the prior experience in their political career to build bridges, who has the domain expertise to lead from their work experience and a strong educational foundation…
May I ask in this forum, which of the two, Harris or Trump, checks most of the boxes? And, when you pick, cite one of the criteria I mention as your reason for making your choice. Go!
Mike, love the quiz show! Let me break the rules by adding, who has the most moral courage? Mitt Romney, for sure, who went against the Republican Party and voted his conscience to do what is right, and impeach Trump. Too bad other Christian leaders didn’t do the same.
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