MVC still not bowled over

MVC still not bowled over

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Appearing before the MVC Thursday night, developer Sam Dunn explained the details of his proposed bowling alley. — Photo by Michelle Gross

Appearing before the Martha’s Vineyard Commission (MVC) for the second time in two weeks, developer Sam Dunn attempted the regulatory equivalent of bowling’s 7-10 split. At a packed public hearing ON February 20, Mr. Dunn attempted to mollify critics of the bowling alley/entertainment center he proposes to build in Oak Bluffs and respond to commission member questions and concerns on a range of topics, from parking to trees to bowling pin noise.

The bowling alley would be located on Uncas Avenue at the edge of the town’s business district. The proposal includes 10 bowling lanes, a bar, a restaurant, two golf simulators, a game room, an event room, and two apartments that would qualify as affordable housing. Mr. Dunn estimates the cost of construction at $2.5 million.

Mr. Dunn first presented his plan to Oak Bluffs selectmen on October 22. The planning board unanimously approved the plan on January 23 and referred it to the MVC as a development of regional impact (DRI), as required by several triggers in the project, including size.

After his first appearance before the MVC on February 6, the commission asked Mr. Dunn for an independent acoustic study to more exactly determine potential sound levels to abutters. He was also asked to be more specific about the number of events he would allow during the summer months and describe how he would mitigate potential odors from the kitchen. The commission also determined a new traffic impact assessment would be necessary to better reflect seasonal fluctuation.  There were also waste water concerns and, since part of the property was once a gas station, concerns about contaminated soil and groundwater on the property. He was also asked to consider providing a police detail for closing hours.

In a brief conversation Friday, Mr. Dunn, an experienced developer, expressed weariness with the demands of the MVC hearing process.

“Regarding the noise, I don’t think we should be held to a standard higher than any of the neighbors,” he said. “Are they totally inaudible when they sit on their porch and talk or play the radio? The extra costs keep adding up.”

Mr. Dunn noted that he had provided additional studies on top of earlier studies, modified his project and cleared the project with the state Department of Environmental Protection (DEP).

“It took an additional $70,000 to get the DEP to sign off,” he said. “I gave up two lanes and shortened the hours, added affordable housing. They just keep chipping away. This can become a death of a thousand cuts if these things keep piling up.”

The MVC land use planning committee (LUPC) will meet on March 3 to discuss the project and forward recommendations to the full commission which will next take up the project on March 6 for an expected vote. The MVC could approve the project, approve it with conditions, or reject it.

The MVC will accept public comment until 5 pm, February 27.

Define inaudible

On Thursday, noise was again a focus of discussion. Mr. Dunn enlisted acoustical consultants Cavanaugh Tocci Associates to provide the requested acoustical study. MVC DRI director Paul Foley noted this was the same firm that developed the successful sound mitigation protocol for Dreamland after abutters had expressed similar concerns.

The consultants recommended upgrading construction of the south and west walls and the west side of the bowling alley roof. “Based on analysis so far, [we] think that the bowling sounds can be mitigated to a level that is inaudible at most times,” the report concluded.

“It says ‘at most times,’” said commissioner James Joyce of Edgartown. “That’s a wide opening.”

Commissioner Joan Malkin of Chilmark, a lawyer, said the definition of “inaudible” needed to be more precise.

MVC hearing chairman Linda Sibley of West Tisbury expressed similar doubt and asked for more specificity than “at most times.” She also asked for more information. “It would be nice to know what the decibel level is when everybody throws their balls at once and all the pins are hit at once,” she said.

Commissioner Kathy Newman of Aquinnah, who at the first hearing questioned if the pins could be made of a sound dampening material, asked about the noise level when the doors are open. Mr. Dunn replied that there are no doors on the side of the building that abuts the objecting residents.

Mr. Dunn also agreed to a stipulation that there would be no amplified loud music and that signs would be posted at the exits asking patrons to be respectful of the neighbors.

Mr. Dunn estimates the additional soundproofing will cost roughly $25,000.

Not native

The site plan calls for honey locust trees to be planted on the property border. That caught the attention of Ms. Sibley.  

John Bradford, chairman of the Oak Bluffs planning board, said that planning board member Brian Packish, an experienced landscaper, recommended honey locust because they are attractive and fast growing.  Mr. Dunn said he had planted honey locust trees at the Tisbury Marketplace, which he developed. “They’re all over the Island,” he said. “They’re beautiful.”

Ms. Sibley, who has expressed repeated concerns at past DRI hearings about the use of non-native species, was not convinced. “They are supposed to be native species because that’s part of our policy,” she said. “Honey locust definitely isn’t.”

Ms. Sibley suggested Mr. Dunn consider Waxberry bushes or another native species as an alternative.

Party planning

Asked to further define the number of events that would be held in the function room during the summer, Mr. Dunn said there would be no more than two events per week during the summer, of no more than 50 people.  Mr. Dunn defined the summer as June 15 to September 15.

Commissioner Joyce asked why Mr. Dunn was not more specific about the offseason. “It doesn’t seem important, but I’d be willing to,” he said. “I think it’s highly unlikely this will be booked solid through the winter. Maybe there’s office parties Christmas week, and nothing in January. I don’t want to pigeonhole it from a business standpoint.”

Once again, commissioners pressed Mr. Dunn on an exact closing time. According to town bylaws, if the project is granted a liquor license, it would be allowed to serve alcohol until 1 am, seven days a week. Mr. Dunn previously volunteered to make last call at 10:30 pm on weekdays and 11:30 pm on Fridays and Saturdays.

“This still leaves us no indication of when patrons would be leaving,” commissioner John Breckenridge of Oak Bluffs said.

“I’m in the restaurant business,” Mr. Dunn said. “We don’t kick people out. If people come before the kitchen closes, we stay until they leave. It’s something the patrons decide.”  

Mr. Dunn said he was willing to stipulate that people would not be served more than one drink per patron at last call. Mr. Breckenridge said that under those rules, someone could stay until 4 am.

“You are supposed to stipulate when the facility closes,” said Ms. Sibley. “Why do you have a problem telling us when they’ll be kicked out?”

“From my experience in the restaurant business, we don’t have to kick people out,” Mr. Dunn said. “They leave. People don’t hang around if you’re not serving.”

Supporters turned out

At the February 6 hearing, the majority of public comments came from owners of abutting residential properties who opposed the project, citing noise, traffic impact, and the rowdiness that could result from having a full bar in the proposed building. Once again, abutters, joined by selectman Gail Barmakian, who also opposes the project, turned out to state their objections. However, unlike the February 6 hearing, proponents of the project were in the vocal majority and they traded points.

“Our board of directors met again last night,” said Oak Bluffs Association executive director Christine Todd. “We continue to be in full support of the project as a board. It will be a great addition to that part of town. It will remedy a derelict property that has been an eyesore for a long time.”

John Tiernan, co-owner of the Dockside Inn in Oak Bluffs, asked the MVC to consider the needs of year-round Islanders and the lack of recreational family venues in the off season. Mr. Tiernan also said that the estimated eight full-time jobs and 20 part-time jobs would be an asset to the town, in addition to the recreational activities.

Abutter Byron Barnett restated concerns about the ambiguities in the acoustic study. “In the first page of his consultants’ report it says it’s impossible to guarantee zero sound. That’s open-ended. I have never said anything against bowling on this Island. My concern is the full liquor bar and the proximity to our homes.”

Ms. Barmakian, stating that she was not representing the board of selectmen, said she had not planned to comment but could not control herself. “I get approached all the time. I would say almost 90 percent of the people didn’t know it was an all liquor facility,” she said. “There were a lot of comments that we don’t need another bar. I know I would have the same concern in my neighborhood.”

Ann Smith, director of Featherstone for the Arts, expressed full support for this project. “Oak Bluffs is in trouble and anything that promotes good business in B-1 district is good for this town,” she said.

Selectman Kathy Burton weighed in via email, noting she did not represent the board. “I cannot tell you how many people have come up to me visibly excited to have a bowling alley back on the Island and even more excited to have it in Oak Bluffs,” she said. “I join the ranks of those in support and think that the project will be of great benefit to Oak Bluffs and the Island.”

Edgartown attorney Ellen Kaplan, representing  a group of abutters, raised a number of questions about the nitrogen load study, the noise abatement, the alcohol-induced behavior. “I was disheartened to hear Mr. Dunn’s inability to answer definitively,” she said. “You need to ask definitive questions on how this is going to work.”

Ms. Kaplan said that the commission was not acting according to precedent and pointed to the MVC denial in December of the Alliance Community Church expansion plan. “If you’re concerned about a church, what about a full liquor bar affecting abutters? I would question denying a church and approving a bar next to a residential neighborhood.”

Mr. Joyce countered that the church was clearly in a residential district. Mr. Dunn’s project is not.

Comments

  1. “It took an additional $70,000 to get the DEP to sign off,” he said. “I gave up two lanes and shortened the hours, added affordable housing. They just keep chipping away. This can become a death of a thousand cuts if these things keep piling up.” I had no idea the DEP had this much power. Answers all my questions.

    1. What Mr. Dunn should do is incorporate as a church, name himself pastor, and then he could do whatever he wanted.

  2. Dear Opposition,
    Why?
    The only logical reason I can think of is that you have nothing better to do with your time than make a fuss. Go knit a hat or build a model, or whatever you do that is entertaining to you and makes no noise or odor (although model glue is some potent stuff), in some other town. Sorry to break it to you, but this is in OB. Sure it’s residential, but of all the towns and all the things that may or may not provide noise and odor in OB, you are going to nit-pick on a Bowling Lane?!?! I would rather you all complain about the Shark Tournament again and forget this is going on and let it pass. There are so many other noisy and stinky places that are nothing more than BAR BARS. Stop complaining and being grumpy and once this is approved and built maybe your grand kids that don’t want to come visit you in the summer because they would rather be playing X-Box at home (although chances are those opposed to this don’t know what that is) will come see you on the Vineyard because there is SOMETHING for them to do in town.

  3. This is absolutely ludicrous. Mr Dunn has been more than accommodating when asked to make changes, but this list from the MVC is absurd. If the town of OB likes the project (and in need of viable downtown businesses to stay relevant) why is the MVC adding obstacles! It’s not an outdoor concert venue, it’s a bowling alley with restaurant. Reminds me of the trouble the Offshore Alehouse went through (although that was from the selectmen) and look-they turned out to be a very good Island business indeed.

    1. ” Reminds me of the trouble the Offshore Alehouse went through (although that was from the selectmen) and look-they turned out to be a very good Island business indeed.” And as I recall, it was one particular selectman.

  4. The writing is on the wall with this one……. He has obviously come up against “Somebody” who doesn’t want the competition, or more likely he has failed to grease the proper wheels. Good Luck Mr. Dunn……….

  5. I now understand why there are so many buildings sitting vacant. The process of starting any business here in a commercial district is too time-consuming and expensive for most investors. It makes far more financial sense to buy the property…let it sit unused (which means lower taxes as the building value depreciates) and hope someone comes along and wants to spend big money and convert it into their summer house.
    What I don’t understand is why a commission that is supposed to be concerned with regional impact is so concerned about some local abutters? Yes, their concerns should be heard, but Isn’t that the job of the town and it’s zoning laws? Shouldn’t there be noise laws in place?
    It seems to me the concerns that are truly in keeping with the MVCs stated goals would be Ms. Sibley’s on the the type of plants used in the landscaping. I have no idea if Honey Locust are good or bad, but I can understand that bringing a non-native species here could have a regional impact.

    1. I agree with you KenEsq. The MVC when looking at a “development of regional impact” should look at the project in terms of it’s REGIONAL implications; ie. is a bowling alley as described appropriate to exist on the island of Martha’s Vineyard perhaps looking to assure a design aesthetic consistent with island norms . Detailed particulars are LOCAL issues and individual towns through democratic processes have established local by-laws (including zoning) and have appropriate local boards to assure projects conform to those local by-laws with appropriate public process and enforcement. How can the MVC presume to interpret local by-laws better than the communities that created them?

  6. He needs to stand up and tell them no. It’s that simple. If you entertain this insanity it only gets worse. What time do you close? Our closing time will be governed by the town of Oak Bluffs bylaws. Etc etc. This could be the best opportunity in a long time to abolish the dri process. It’s clear that it’s flawed. The requests are ludicrous. Linda Sibley still hasn’t put any plantings of substance or even finished the driveway at radio shack.

    1. strikesagain get’s my vote as the best comment here. He should say no to all their far reaching demands. Well said strikesagain!!!!

    2. I agree no to this. the smallest sanctioned bowling alley I know of with leagues is 12 lanes. Time to throw in the towel.

        1. They should leagues are the foundation of a profitable bowling alley. Its regular income and they drink lots of beer. Also they have banquets at the end.Sometimes I think this isnt really meant to be a bowling alley. The one in Vineyard Haven would have survived if they lasted to get a liqour license after the town voted in beer and wine.

  7. Odors from the kitchen . G , it might smell inviting . Movie Theaters are disappearing . The Island could use a Family friendly source of indoor entertainment . A place to go on those rainy days or those cold winter months . It’s not like a proposal for a McDonalds or Project Housing is being made .What other forms of decent Entertainment does the Island offer . High priced shopping , expensive charter fishing , tight cramped movie theaters . Eating and Drinking establishments . I believe you have parking issues with every one of these . Where do you park your car in OB for 4 plus hours if your going on a Half day fishing trip ?
    Lighten up MDC. Find a better issue to fight .

  8. The shrub thing kills me, that’s the point when I would have flipped the table over and told everyone to kiss my butt as I walked out. I hope he hangs in there and builds it.

    1. That and their insistence on pinning Sam down on hours of operation. The town has those set already. The concerns about noise is another one. How do the neighbors deal with the noise from the basketball and tennis courts? They must be using sound deadening tennis/basketballs maybe?

      1. Ooh yes! And heaven forbid anybody cheers or makes any kind of noises like that. Especially if they do it all at once. I’ll warrant a game at Viera Park can get pretty loud too. Better shut down the Little League.

    2. Especially since it apparently was OB that required him to include that particular species in his plan.

  9. I wonder how many non-native species plants grow in the MVC board members’ gardens? Have they checked the noise levels when their landscapers come weekly (as regularly as 10 balls striking pins simultaneously)? Those leaf blowers are quite the nuisance to neighbors. My guess is the board reeks from hypocrisy.

  10. Most of the requests are ridiculous, but the most stupid of all is the request to know the decibel level – when EVERYONE throws their ball at the same time and ALL the pins are hit at once. With ten lanes, that’s a perfect game! How often is that going to happen. Stupid, just stupid.

    1. Quite right Rich. I was fairly startled by the request for anticipated decibels during a free for all where ten highly accomplished bowlers proceeded to throw simultaneously. A touch over the top, no?

      Now, I must say, that as a Brit I find manners to be lacking in this otherwise invigorating society. I was born at night, but I was not born last night, let me assure you.

      Should one find oneself bowling in an an American alley, say in Revere or Dorchester, and one felt it necessary to bowl without regard for their lane neighbor who happened to be readying a shockingly good throw next door, well, one would find that they had breached bowling etiquette. One might also find oneself with shards of a Budweiser bottle in their scalp. It just in not done.

      On this Island, I fear quite the opposite. Just as the Vineyard Stop has entered our collective lives, so too shall enter the Vineyard “bowl ahead and best of luck.”

      I fear far too few bowls will be made. No pins will be struck (how could one make a decisive throw when watched by an overly polite neighbor by God?)

      Bowling on this Island of ours will come to a standstill. It won’t be the noise that kills it. It will be the culture.

      I say a billiards hall!

      -IslandSleuth

      1. I disagree. If you want to check out the new upcoming boutique bowling lanes that are making a profit, packed house every night and a hell of a lot of fun for all ages, you must go check out the bowling lanes at mashpee commons. The food is excellent, lanes are incredible and sets a great example of what will be very successful for OB. Psshh…..I am SO sick of old timer islanders thinking about themselves. There are some of us who have lived here a long time who find this place a bore. Bowling would liven my week up and give me something to look forward too. You are certainly allowed an opinion as I am too, but you have no clue what you are talking about. There is indeed a thriving bowling culture nation wide.

        1. Based on the MVC’s behavior, I sense people would expect the same sort of objections would be raised if this were to be a billiards hall.

  11. A billiards hall might make for a nice compromise. We have had great success with snooker tables “across the pond.”

    1. No, than the Commission will just say that billards aren’t as “family friendly” and promote alcohol consumption – making the project just a bar with pool tables.

  12. Full disclosure first: I am an abutter, with a small child, who owns a house that has been in our family for three generations. This bowling alley/bar/event space will be five feet from our screened in back porch. I hope that means you won’t pre-judge my comment.

    In the big picture, it is important that boards/commissions ask the hard questions now, especially about projects of this size and scope. It protects everyone, not just those involved in this particular situation, because the next project could be next to your house or your business. Hard questions provide an opportunity to show that a plan is solid, considered and thoughtful.

    This is a unique situation. The area is now truly mixed zoning. It is important to note that the proposed bowling alley/bar/event space has residences to the north, south, east and west. It isn’t accurate to call it all residential or all commercial. It is actually a little strange. Perhaps that’s why this is more complex than it appears on the surface.

    This is a big deal because it really is going to determine the fate of a whole neighborhood, not just one or two abutters. Is this neighborhood now
    going to morph into a fully commercial zone or will it be forced to accommodate
    businesses that operate seven days a week for 12 to 14 hours a day and create
    parking on a shared residential street in order to serve a money making
    venture? The answer might be yes and the bowling alley will be the gateway.

    Doesn’t that deserve discussion?

    I think anyone can understand the impulse to fight for his or her home, as anyone can understand the impulse/need for wanting something new and interesting to do on-island in the winter months. I’m just not sure why it is a bad thing to hash it out now and do some of the nitty-gritty work it takes to make sure the right thing happens in the right way.

    If you read this far, thanks.

      1. It really is mixed. Some lots are commercial and others aren’t. As for the accuracy of the proposed area being surrounded here’s what I meant: To the north there’s our house and to the south there are several homes, plus lot 148 to the south is home too,even though it is marked commercial on some maps. To the west lot 152 contains three condos and to the east, on lot 158 there are four very nice apartments above the gallery.

        1. The Gallery that couldn’t make it as a Gallery in this area? I would value Kim Nye’s input on the issue since she wasn’t able to overcome the stigma of trying to run an upscale business with a horribly run down rat infested junk yard with a boarded up building right in her front entrance…

    1. Ms. Stewart it’s not just about wanting, “something new and interesting to do…”, it’s people that are fighting for their home, Martha’s Vineyard. They’re seeing buildings falling into disrepair and being left empty in the heart of their towns. These towns aren’t places they visit for a few weeks/months a year, but the places we depend on for the basics of a healthy life twelve months a year.

      Among the things that always attracted me to the Vineyard was that it was a “real” place not just a tourist destination. There were good, hard-working people here with families. Many of those people are seeing their Island slip away, they’ve seen three of the four (general release) movie theaters shuttered and their buildings left to rot, they’re seeing other properties that once served the year-round community closed or changed into businesses solely to serve tourists or wealthy seasonal residents. They’re seeing a gentrification process that has driven property values up so dramatically that their children may never be able to reside here and that they may not be able to remain here once they retire.

      Is all of that riding on this one proposal? No, of course not, but many saw this project as a positive step. Someone wants to make an investment that will replace a hazardous, depressing, dilapidated building with a new structure that would also provide a nice setting for social events and entertainment year round.

      I think people do understand your concerns, and I don’t believe anyone has ill wishes for the people in that area. Perhaps you might take a little time to understand the concerns of the people that call Martha’s Vineyard their home.

    2. I believe you may have valid points to be considered, I just believe most of the people commenting on this article just do not think the Commission is the proper body to be weighing what, as you even say, are NEIGHBORHOOD issues. Towns that have written zoning, noise and other by-laws have local boards to mediate these issues. Why is a commissioner from Chilmark or West Tisbury better suited to examine Oak Bluffs’s neighborhoods and democratically voted by-laws than duly elected and appointed citizens of Oak Bluffs?

    3. Hmm. I appreciate your situation and wanting to protect your home/neighborhood’s character. However, I think the actions Mr. Dunn has taken and processes he’s gone through, as described above, have gone beyond “ask[ing] the hard questions now” and making sure Mr. Dunn’s business plan is “solid, considered and thoughtful,” and stretched into posing absurd hypotheticals and giving him costly, contradictory mandates that will do little to reassure the folks who already have it in their minds that introducing a commercial venture into this space is a bad idea.

      I’m not a person who generally endorses business for the sake or business or allowing business to come in and ruin the character of a place, but OB is bleeding for new life and new, well-funded, well-managed businesses. This particular venture serves two important (much needed) niches: another rainy day activity for families (on and off season) and alternatives to mere drinking for young people. It is sad for me to see the MVC and other powers that be chase off such a good opportunity.

      In sum: Mr. Dunn has played ball. He’s made voluntary concessions to mitigate the harm to the neighborhood and jumped through a variety of hoops. Now it’s time to wrap this up and let him get on with the other difficult parts of opening a new business, instead of chipping away at whatever reserve money he has by making him conduct ANOTHER acoustic study and asking him to chase down mythical sound-dampening bowling pins. Businesses have a high enough rate of failure on the island without cutting off the poor guy’s legs before he even has a chance to open his doors.

      Mr. Dunn will never be able to prove himself a good neighbor and community member if he’s not given a chance. So let’s give him a chance.

  13. This will turn into another great idea Killed by the MVC. I would love to see an island wide vote to abolish this agency and have it sent to the legislature to be ratified.

  14. I hope that Linda Sibley reconsiders the idea of nixing honey locusts. We owned a home in Western Mass with a grove of honey locusts. What delightful trees. They flower in the spring, the aroma is wonderful, they are tall, the wood is exquisite. True, they are not native to the Vineyard. But what does this mean? Red Cedars are native to the Vineyard and both the Tisbury and Oak Bluffs conservation commissions are okay with tearing them up and chipping them up into mulch from both the Land Bank properties and the MV Museum property. What is sacred? Honey locusts are in fact a very nice pick. Please reconsider.

  15. I live dierctly across the street from what others might think is an ideal situation, namely a farm field. How could that possibly be a bad thing? No building, no drinking, no cars parked evetywhere, etc. What a percect place to have a house, charming fields of wildflowers, corn, vegetables. Our friends always remark how lovely the setting is. But heres the kicker… Tractor noise outside the bedroom window starting at 6:00 am for hours, wind blown dirt and dust flying off the fields into our house, we cant have the windows open most of the summer. Weed wackers and leaf blowers all the time. Nothing ruins a perfectly lovely summer afternoon quicker than a weed wacker running for hours around the perimeter of the field.

    My point is this, we bought into this neighborhood knowing full well that there would likely be farming activities going on across the street. We deal with it. No matter where you live, if you are in close proximity to any other human activities, there will be noise and disruption to your perfect, ideal Vineyard experience. Whether its dogs barking, airplanes, roosters crowing, traffic noise, loud music, whatever, most of us, even in strictly residential neighborhoods are living with it.

    I understand the neighbors concerns, but you are next to a commercially zoned property, you have to expect that commercial activities ate going to happen. Its not a chop shop, or an automotive repair shop, its a bowling alley with food and alcohol being served. It will comply with all the town zoning laws and will be a beneficial improvemnt to the property. Dont spoil it for everyone else who are looking forward to this coming to fruition. And shame on the MVC once again for demonstrating how foolish they are.

  16. The MVC has turned into a monster entity. It reminds me of HAL from 2001. It’s a perfect example of “be careful what you wish for”.

  17. Scrap the bowling alley and put in a Trader Joes style Coop grocery store. I had a plan to buy that place and just sell/stock the dry goods as owner and lease spaces inside the building to 1) Butcher/deli 2) Juice bar 3) Coffee bar 4) Florist 5) etc.
    Driving into town for groceries is counter productive yet Reliable will still be just as reliable and profitable where they are since they do not sell any Organic, gluten free, macro biotic, grass juice at their wonderful location. Even the neighbors will be happy with low noise and closed by 10pm. plus they can still sell beer and wine for the beach parties. An 8 lane bowling alley seems more retarded than the MVC can be. Sorry. I’d go for 40 lanes up by the airport instead where you can stay open 24/7. , right next to The Hot Tin pizza place would be perfect! , Just sayen

      1. Was in negotiations with the seller from Maine for the yellow building, had him ready to go at $230k since the sky was falling at the time, when someone came along and offered him an overvalued bid that of course he accepted. The buyer saw value in the largest remaining commercial location in OB.

  18. I was year rounder and lived in an abutter’s house. I know how difficult the winter can be since activities are few and far between and it’s expensive to leave the island to do anything. A bowling alley is a great idea—IN THE RIGHT LOCATION. Uncas Ave isn’t it.

    1. Watching this youtube clip was pathetic and so indicative of true small town mentality.
      These big fish in a small pond are Pathetically Condescending people.
      They are seemingly so very proud of themselves, patting themselves on the backs for their adolescent shenanigans.
      Not a professional in sight.
      …..and I bet they all go to Church on Sunday.

      Sad indeed.

      1. She’s claimed she was joking. I can understand that a mean-spirited individual would consider that a joke.

    2. I dragged myself to the town meeting where we were supposed to have a vote to remove Edgartown from the MVC. We never voted. Might be a good time to revisit that.