It doesn’t matter

1. Victims are to be believed if they are telling the truth. Credibility requires corroboration —sincerity is not enough. Sometimes accusers lie, other times they believe it happened but it is delusional, and other times they are telling the truth and it really did happen. We are to judge an accusation with evidence not feelings.

   1. The Senate Judiciary Committee refused to accept evidence that may or not have been persuasive. Credibility can’t happen if those running the show won’t allow it.

   2. Andrew, and George— I don’t mean to be personally attacking you Andrew, but really, how often do you present facts in your comments here ? Credible facts, that is.

   3. People who believe in religious, unproven, unfactual stories yet deny the science of changes to our climate, are not good judges of how to determine credibility. People can be believed when they have absolutely nothing to gain by lying. No woman puts herself through what Dr Blasey Ford is going through if it is not the truth. She is 100% sure that an arrogant, entitled, privileged, drunken liar named Bret Kavenaugh got on top of her, groped and grinded her, and put his hand over her mouth so she couldn’t scream. Then he and his drinken pal, Judge, laughed at her. Just because the FBI, directed by the lying, tax fraud Pu***-Grabber-In-Chief, did not bother to interview the people who corroborate her story, does not make it any less true. How can someone believe in the utter nonsense of unproven fairy tales, made up thousands of years ago, yet has a hard time hearing the truth from something that happened not so long ago that there are still people alive who corroborate the facts?

2. Thankfully, in this country the presumption of innocence, until guilt is proven beyond reasonable doubt, still prevails.

   1. hanley— that is true. So why do republicans only believe the women who accused Bill Clinton?
      With the exception of Monica, there was never any “proof”.
      The congressional hearings for the appointment of a supreme court justice is not a court of law. It is look at the character, the morals and unfortunately, the political views of the nominee. In this case judge Kavanaugh showed his true colors in his opening statement. Regardless of the accusations against him, his sniveling whining snarling rant alone should be enough to disqualify him from such a position. The naked misogyny he showed when questioned by a female senator was clear evidence of a man unfit for the job.

      1. Conviction by accusation is your standard of judgment, Don. Very sad.

         1. Keeping this brief. The GOP does not have the votes to confirm as of Wednesday evening, else they would have. Meantime, Maryland state lawmakers are asking Montgomery County law enforcement to investigate the sexual assault allegations against Kavanaugh. Comments by those who have seen his social calendar suggest a preponderance of similar events; expect more victims to come forward. There’s no statute of limitations for this in Maryland so Kavanaugh may see prison prison time. State crime, no presidential pardon.

            1. I hope you don’t bet on football.

            2. @Hanley: Re-read. GOP leadership was unsure of the outcome on Wednesday, so they waited. Once they confirmed their publicity suck-ups had no integrity, they voted.

         2. hanley– where do I say that or even imply that? what “association” are you referring to ?
            I stated that he does not have the disposition for the job. If you are going to comment on something I say, at least get close to what I am talking about.

         3. hanley– correction on my last comment “accusation” instead of “association”
            Note I said “regardless of the accusations”

      2. You don’t know what “clear evidence looks like.

   2. Here we are with another misconception. Presumption of innocence is only required in a court of law. This is not a court. No one has had charges brought. It is an exercise in trying to figure if someone is qualified for an important job.

      1. It is very much a court – of public opinion and defamation. If you were the object, I’m sure your view would be different.

         1. Hanley– Once again , I agree with you about being the object of defamation. Dr Ford must be totally devastated. How many people , after all , get mocked by a sitting ( and I do mean sitting) president of the United States to the cheers of hundreds of people ?
            And go to Fox “news” to see how they portray her– talk about defamation—
            And all she did was tell her story–

         2. The court of public opinion has to have the presumption of innocence? Surely you jest. I have never seen such a thing.From Nixon to Clinton,from OJ to Weinstein. None proven guilty. All assumed so. The list goes on and on.

3. It’s a scary time to be a white male in this country.

   1. It’s a scary time for a black male to be pulled over for a broken tail-light in this country.

   2. BS –Is that because a woman might decide to call out a white male on his sexual misconduct ?
      Or perhaps because people of color ( and particularly women of color) are starting to encroach on the privilege that white males have enjoyed for decades ?
      It must be truly terrifying for white male racists to see that 4 of their comrades were arrested last week simply for beating black people in Charlottesville last year. They didn’t even kill any of them.
      And what about that guy that was arrested after the “unite the right” rally last year for simply shooting his gun towards a black man ? Wow– talk about the left taking away the guns of honest citizens– he had a flag banana and a flag t shirt on under his bullet proof vest for Spaghetti’s sake! How dare they arrest him ?! Scary times indeed.. Yes– better get Kavanaugh in there quickly to stop that kind of nonsense.

   3. Get over it and behave yourself and you’ll be fine. It’s always been a scary time to be female in this country. And heaven help you if you’re black, wearing a hoodie, and carrying some Skittles.

   4. Awww. Now maybe they’ll know how everybody else feels

4. I must be a victim of something.

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