In a presidential election widely considered fateful for our democracy, there are still Islanders who wonder if their vote really matters. They question whether they even need to vote, especially if they come from a state like Massachusetts, which leans so heavily to the Democratic Party.
Some, particularly young voters, shrug their shoulders with indifference and state an oft-repeated refrain that they do not feel either presidential candidate in this race speaks for them. This amazing Island we are so lucky to call home can sometimes feel like an idyllic cocoon, and we can deceive ourselves that the outside world with all its noise somehow does not ring true or, well, really matter. There is no room for that kind of entitlement in this year’s election.
We have a very clear message for the whole Island today: VOTE!
Why? First of all, it is a right and a privilege in our democracy to cast your ballot. Even more than that, it is a responsibility of every citizen to participate in our democracy. We are not typically in the business of endorsing candidates in the pages of The MV Times.
But this year, so much hangs in the balance, with a candidate who has threatened to undermine the Constitution and the legacy of a peaceful transfer of power if he loses. He has consistently targeted the free press as “the enemy of the people,” and used language that too often sounds more like the words of a dictator than a leader of the U.S. And it is not just left-leaning observers who are sounding this alarm.
After serving in the military for more than 40 years, Trump’s own top military commander, Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, gave a speech marking his retirement in which he said, “We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, to a tyrant or dictator — or wannabe dictator.”
Many assumed Milley was referring to Trump, but the phrasing was at least somewhat subtle, and the four-star Army general did not elaborate publicly at the time. Now Milley, like so many others, wants to be perfectly clear what he means, and did so in a just-published interview with the legendary Pulitzer prizewinning journalist Bob Woodward for his book.
Milley told Woodward, “No one has ever been as dangerous to this country as Donald Trump. Now I realize he’s a total fascist.”
We believe this election is about realizing that the peril to our democracy is real. We believe all of us need to open our eyes wide to the fact that Trump has openly shown his willingness to undercut our democracy. And therefore this year, we are encouraging people to go to the polls and be sure to vote as a way to protect our democracy. This is not about partisan politics or one policy choice over another; it is about the bedrock of our country, and the legal framework and traditional norms upon which it was built, and through which it has flourished.
Vice President Kamala Harris will no doubt win by a landslide on this Island, gauging by its politics and the lawn signs everywhere that support her. But across the country, polls are indicating that this is a race that is just too close to call.
Our estimation is that Kamala Harris is a brilliant leader, with a fierce determination to serve the country, and an admirable history of doing so. She has developed solid policy goals, and she is worthy of your vote. On issues that matter greatly to this Island, including climate change, the economy, affordable housing, women’s reproductive rights, immigration reform, education, and many others, she has outlined clear and consistent views that we believe speak to the goals we share on making this Island a more fair and just place to live.
Harris has also been forceful in calling out Trump on his threat to democracy and the menacing language he has used to try to incite an attack on our government and its institutions if he does not win the election. She has pulled no punches, and proven she is a fighter. Kamala Harris deserves your vote.
And on this ballot, you will also find important local issues, which we outline for you in this week’s news coverage, along with the locations and times when the polls open and close in your town. Likely drawing the most interest locally, there’s a contested race for the Martha’s Vineyard Commission. Also, Cape and Islands state Sen. Julian Cyr is facing two challengers — a Republican and an unenrolled contestant from the Island. And there are a number of congressional races and ballot questions to consider. We encourage you to weigh all of these choices on your ballot.
But most of all, we encourage you to go to the polls or mail in your ballot, and we implore you to vote for democracy. There is too much at stake not to.
”Harris is a brilliant leader with outlined policy goals”? Please, by all means support Kamala but to suggest she is what you say is disingenuous.
andy it’s not disingenuous at all. She has repeatedly outlined her policy positions
has been a public servant for decades and has proven herself to be articulate
and forthcoming. Her opponent has of late been “dancing” around on stage
after getting tired of taking questions at a town hall. About his policies– we know
he wants to “suspend” the constitution, install himself as a dictator
on day one, prosecute his political opponents, shut down certain media
outlets, pardon felons that have been convicted of assaulting
police officers, use the military against U.S citizens, bankrupt our country
by deporting millions of people who are legally working and paying taxes in this country,
thinks China will pay for our child care, and has a clear fascination with
penis size. And don’t get me going on the fact that he wants to give my
ancestorial homeland to a ruthless dictator who invaded a sovereign country.
Thank you for listing all the reasons all liberals are voting for someone inarticulate and unclear about her policies. You actually came up with 2 inarticulate reasons why she has your vote, yet can’t manage to spell them out in particulars. Just like Harris. And thank you for repeating, yet again, the much longer list of why you hate Trump. I wonder if anyone has noticed that liberals don’t actually like Harris. They know she’s bad but praise qualities she simply does not have. Liberals just hate Trump and anyone wearing a red hat.
Jackie– the last time you went on about me not
being able to articulate why I was voting for Harris
I gave about 4 paragraphs of reasons.
I’m sure you can go back and read them all
again.
Since you lump ALL liberals together in your comment,
let me be clear that I don’t hate anyone–
I just think anyone voting for trump is stupid.
Andrew, considering the work that you do, it sounds incongruent that you serve humans and at the same time support a person politically who sexually assaults other humans.
Mary for the last time(perhaps) I have no information that Trump sexually assaulted other humans and neither do the courts. Virtually all of his policies align to mine. All of the issues Ms. Harris stands for are antithetical to mine. Border, immigration, taxes, climate, drilling, fossil fuels, transgender. The list goes on. If you picked up a voter guide which has yes/no to both candidates on their policies, all the Trump ones say yes and all the Harris ones say no. I am manifestly incapable of voting for Harris. I dont vote for the person I vote for the policies. Certainly Trump is of mediocre character, narcissistic and low vocabulary and he has never had a boss. I know all that. I would not vote for him as my Pastor. Nothing incongruent about my decisions.
Andrew,
27 women have accused trump of sexual misconduct. You can parse and defend Trump’s violent conduct if you choose.
https://www.app.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/09/15/bruce-springsteen-donald-trump-freehold-music-center-pianos-atlantic-city/8351969002/
An app is not a news report.
It is actually Biden whose public behavior toward young women and children and even infants—pawing and sniffing them– is nauseating.
On video.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/whoa-joe-biden-goes-baby-biting-spree-white/
And then there is the Shower Diary.
Andrew, Trump’s favorite form of tax seems to be in applying tariffs. His previous tariffs caused US citizens harm by increasing prices, which began an upward spiral of inflation. The Trump tariffs also destroyed the soybean industry in the United States, overnight. Trump tariffs also destroyed the wholesale pecan industry in the United States. Maybe none of your friends are soybean or pecan farmers.
Mary I dont agree with Tariffs. He is wrong on this one. I want the invisible hand of capitalism to prevail and not tariffs. I think he can be wrong on a couple of things. We never get perfect alignment.
Well, Andrew, Trump is wrong on just about everything. He said he will deport 12 million people. Just how is that supposed to work? Pull people out of their homes, shove them onto trains, and move them across the border?
Do you care about women who are sexually assaulted, Mary? Or just the ones who promote an agenda? You either stand up for all rape victims, or none at all.
Mary please inform yourself on civil versus criminal trial and difference between sexual assault and rape AND certainty versus preponderance of evidence. All of these terms have been manipulated by the media in order to defame Trump. As an extreme example OJ Simpson was found not guilty in a criminal trial but found guilty in a civil trial and asked to pay millions . How can this be? Oh it be.
Andrew, we disagree.
Your words can be picked apart as well.
If Trump continues to behave
how he has behaved in the past,
a lot of people working for the US will die.
When Trump reveals our Top Secret
information, it jeopardizes American lives.
Trump allowing Top Secret information
to be stored away from lock and key 🔐,
is criminal.
Other people have gone to prison for less.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/former-us-air-force-intelligence-officer-sentenced-36-months-imprisonment-willfully
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/18/1137474748/trump-tweeted-an-image-from-a-spy-satellite-declassified-document-shows
andy– so it’s ok to assault people as long as it can’t be
proven in a criminal court ? OJ was innocent ?
People do not question whether they need to vote. Many are considering not voting for president at all because there’s no one to vote for. I, for one, support neither candidate, for the first time in my life. But as I just said to a friend, if Trump wins I hope all those disingenuous liberals, (thank you, Andrew), touting Harris for qualities she simply does not have, will move to Canada, as so many have promised.
By the way, dems are just as bad for democracy. For example, look how we got stuck with Harris who magically appeared at the head of the ticket without receiving a single vote for president in the primaries. How slick was that to kick doddering Biden to the curb at the 11th hour?
Jackie — not voting at all is a vote for Trump. I agree with Don (surprise!) that there was nothing disingenuous about Harris being the candidate. If Biden had been sidelined for any reason, Harris would have been the President of the United States. I think if you truly listen to her, you will find her to be a better candidate than Trump. Particularly after his disgusting show at Madison Square Garden. But as I have said before, I cannot imagine how a woman can vote for a convicted sexual offender. I really can’t. Plus this one who wants to make women’s health care illegal. Did you hear Mrs. Obama’s speech, or is she too liberal for you?
“I grew up understanding that children in the community are children in the community.” -Kamala Harris being articulate, and right off the top of her head, too, without a teleprompter or notes. There’s lots more just like that, too.
Harris is a nicer human than Trump, for sure. That doesn’t fix her incompetence. I don’t believe she’s smart. She graduated a law school ranked 82. Who knows where she didn’t get in? She failed the bar first go round. Smarter, more competent people pass on the first try. Had Biden resigned 2 years ago due to his failing cognitive health that was unmistakeable then, Harris would have been president, proving how she would handle the office, thereby giving people like me a chance to vote in the primaries for a more suitable democrat and indeed one not so sympathetic toward Israel’s enemies. That two-state solution turns out to be a pipe dream of mine and many others who’ve slowly and tragically concluded that’s never going to happen. The issue isn’t Netanyahu, a guy I don’t like. The issue is that Israel exists.
I did vote yesterday in nyc’s early voting. I didn’t say I wasn’t going to vote. I said there was no one to vote for. Honest people who care about causes we’ve cared about all our lives, know her candidacy was not the will of the people but now shamelessly extol all these fake qualities she doesn’t have, even on her best days. The Democratic Party is shamefully antisemitic, too, particularly the very liberal left, a frightening reality for me and my family. When the naive and ignorant island college student’s were protesting Israel and supporting the groups harassing Jewish kids and profs on campus, there were people on these pages who said they were PROUD of the kids supporting pro-Hamas ideals. PROUD! Those were the liberal dems, not the republicans.
Yes, I voted. It’s my duty even though Harris is a scam candidate who is sorely unqualified for the job. Look, lots of us were saying Biden was out of it, so very obviously out of it, and Harris continued to lie about it, kidding no one except those cultist robots repeating the party line. That makes Harris a liar, right up there with all liars in both parties, who, in my opinion, stole her place on the ticket.
People who do not like either candidate and care about voting their conscience, can write-in a choice they can live with. My NYC vote doesn’t matter because my district is nearly 100% blue, but I still know one’s duty is to vote.
It’s worse than disappointing to see what’s happened to democrats, calling out everything despicable in republicans without looking at their own despicable behavior, screaming “maggots this and maggots that” and calling out supporters of Israel’s right to self determination and self protection on their homeland soul, with false accusations of favoring genocide and war crimes. The worst lies are the lies we tell ourselves.
Jackie– Biden dropped out of the race because he realized that people were
correct about his declining mental capacities. He put his country before his ego.
There was nothing illegal about it or even outside the realm of political discourse.
Too bad for the whining republicans. They now have to deal with a demented old guy
at the top of the ticket who gives meandering incoherent speeches and can’t answer
simple questions.
He was forced out.
Jackie I am so proud of you. For years you and I tussled and we dont anymore. I am certain you and I disagree on certain things but your about face on many issues has me very grateful to you.
awww– how sweet
Thank you, Andrew. I am equally grateful to you for your moral steadfastness.
I’m black.
I’m middle class.
I’m voting for Trump and
I’m voting against Kamala.
She does not deserve my vote.
He deserves a second term.
And I am offended by Obama telling me that I have to vote for her because of my race or her race.
If Trump said white guys need to or should vote for Trump because of his race, we’d never hear the end of how racist that statement was. Ironically, our half white former president gets away with telling me that I need to vote for Kamala because of race. That’s racism and deserves to be called out but this paper and this island would never do such a thing.
Bill– So you are going to vote for the guy who said this
“Former President Donald Trump criticized Jewish Americans who don’t vote for him in speeches aimed at addressing antisemitism…” “If I don’t win this election,
and the Jewish people would really have a lot to do with that if that happens…”
and then , when referencing Jews who are not
voting for him–“You should have your head examined…”
I’m not even Jewish, and I’m offended.
So it’s ok for trump to say that Jews should vote for him because of
their religion and culture ?? Do you see any racism there ?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-jewish-voters-antisemitism/
I’m not black either, and I was offended by Obama’s comment also.
But I didn’t see Harris saying that– and she , not Obama is running for president.
Trump was making the valid point that Jews and Israel will do better without Harris as president. Many, many Jews know this to be absolutely true- even though they do not like Trump for all the known reasons he is unlikeable. Israel supports Trump. They sure don’t like Harris. Understanding of the existential fight Jews are faced with today, no one could legitimately draw conclusions with out of touch and out of context misunderstanding of what Trump actually said. Most people who made a big todo about these Trump statements were people trying to deflect their own antisemitic views of the liberal left, toward Israel and even toward American Jews who support Israel’s right to exist and defend herself. I think any Jew who votes for Harris is making a serious mistake for Jews, so in that regard, I agree with Trump. Remember the “stay out of Rafah” threat from Biden/Harris? Good thing Israel crossed THAT red line. Good for the world, it was. People who have no idea what they’re talking about when it comes to Judaism and Israel will often say things that are either antisemitic or else a pretense that they know how Jews have experienced the trauma of this last year. Sadly manipulated and uninformed Jews and non-Jews alike who’ve gotten so much wrong this entire year on the war against Israel from 7 Middle East fronts, are in no position to know what offends Jewish people who understand the position Israel is in. Many Jews are offended by Harris’s wish-washy and contradictory statements about the Jewish people in the Middle East as they fight for their existence. I am far from alone on being familiar with actual facts about how Jews see trump’s Israel views, although you won’t see much about it in the liberal biased news media. Trump is not an antisemite, unlike so many voting for Harris.
Keller, Yes Jews who vote for Harris should have their head examined because Trump stands for Israel and fringes of the Democratic party are violently anti semitic. Yes I criticize Jews who vote for Harris and I give a pass for Jews who dont vote for either candidate. It is not racist to point out that a block of people can alter a vote. Historically Blacks have voted for the Dems and will so again. Yes those votes have tilted toward a Dem win. Is that racist? I think not.
Andrew, Trump has been working with the Russians for decades. That’s a problem.
andy– and black people who vote for trump should have their
heads examined because trump is a racist?
Is that racist?
I think not .
Especially if saying Jews should have their heads
examined is not anti semitic. And speaking of antisemitism:
A lot of people are upset with that so called comedian that
called Puerto Rico a floating garbage patch while warming up
the crowd for trump. So where is the outrage from the Jews
when he said that playing rock, paper, scissors could solve
the middle east problem ? The Palestinians will always throw rock–
the Jews will never throw the paper — and then the little
hand gesture indicating money.
The implication was clearly a slanderous trope about Jews being
cheap. So this guy , in the course of 3 minutes manages to
insult Hispanics and Jews and tells a lewd sexual “joke” directed
at immigrants.
How do conservatives
explain that one to their kids ?
I’m sure if this guy was spewing that crap
at a Harris rally, conservative heads would explode
Here is the whole thing– you can spare yourself some agony
and just watch from minute 3 to minute 6 to get the
drift about what trump and his supporters are about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sjLNxnKKxY
I’m white.
I’m middle class.
I’m voting for Kamala and
voting against trump.
And it’s not about race.
The person making it about race is you.
She doesn’t necessarily deserve my vote.
But after the train wreck of his first term,
he definitely does not deserve a second term.
And before you paint me as some woke liberal,
I am a lapsed republican who realizes just how dangerous trump and his ideals are.
I watch him lie and spew racial slurs at debates, press conference’s and rallies he actually shows up for. I watch him lose interest in answering questions, at an event that was set up with easy questions to answer, and dance around for 40 minutes.
I watch him dodge any questions about what he will actually get done in his second term. Or how he plans to do what little bit he does say he will do .
But more importantly, I listen to members of his first administration tell us just how dangerous and unhinged he is.
You vote for trump, I’ll vote for Kamala. We’ve just canceled each other’s vote.
Yes, Jim. No one is voting for Harris because she’s any good or can answer questions off the cuff, lol. The only good thing about her, for honest people like you, is that she is not Trump. At least you admit it, unlike those less honest folks endorsing her for her imaginary qualities.
Bill, you are free to vote for your
favorite candidate.
I sometimes ask people why they
support Trump. Some of the answers
people give come from conservative
radio propaganda shows, which tell
massive lies.
One middle-aged woman with a
high-school level education thought
Kamala was dumb—Kamala has advanced
college degrees and decades of
highly successful work experience.
It seemed disingenuous to disparage Kamala
when the woman with a high-school
diploma has no idea what it means
to earn several college degrees or
work for decades at extremely
demanding jobs.
For me, when Trump wouldn’t
offer condolences to Ahmaud Arbery’s
family, that let me know how callous
and uncaring Trump really is.
It was such a small and tiny opportunity
for Trump to be the good guy, to show
compassion, that would have taken
only a few seconds, and Trump chose
not to do it. Why didn’t Trump do the
right thing?
I believe it might be related to how Trump
was raised at home:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/28/in-1927-donald-trumps-father-was-arrested-after-a-klan-riot-in-queens/
There is simply no comparison between a political party changing it’s nominee and trying to violently overturn the results of a free and fair election.
Neither behavior was a signal of our precious (to me, at least) democratic process regarding the transfer of power and the right to a free and fair election process. Both were anti-democracy and neither can be excused or made into one being worse than the other. Harris knew Biden was incapaciated and she lied to us, virtually stealing the nomination after it was too late for the primaries. Not that she managed this unfair election by herself. How anyone can stick up for either candidate, with the rather dumb excuses as we see above here, is beyond me. But good for liberals for voting with Beyonce and Taylor Swift and the MVTimes editorial staff. Vote for your choice even though you don’t have one.
Hitler was voted into office with only 30% of the votes.
Mary, your statement is inaccurate. You are unschooled in Holocaust era information. It remains inappropriate for anyone, not just you, to dilute the atrocities of the holocaust and Nazi conduct by inferring that Trump is a Nazi. He is a lot of things, but he is not a Nazi. It’s become a nearly full-time and thankless and likely useless job to correct the untruths coming from the liberal left in this newspaper who somehow want me to to believe that they believe Harris to be a “brilliant leader”– What this liberal fantasy is based on, I do not know.
Jackie– I agree with you for once–trump is not a nazi
he just has many of the same political ideas the nazi’s
do and he supports them, and they support him.
You will not be able to find a single member of any
American nazi party that would vote for Harris.
Trump is a fascist– clear and simple– just watch
his speech at MSG.
And why do you of all people give the nazi party some
legitimacy by capitalizing it ? I thought that kind
of stuff was reserved for things like” She”, or “They” when using the
proper pronoun for god.
Keller. You are uninformed about Nazi “political ideas”. Relevant specifically to these MVTimes recent discussions, the groups today who most share in those “ideas” are not republicans or Republican leaders as you and Mary claim. They are Hamas, Hezbollah, the Islamic Regime and all the Iranian proxies. It’s not odd to me that the liberal left, with its undeniable yet unacknowledged (by them) antisemitic issues, never accuses Hamas of being Nazis for behaving like… Nazis: pledging, plotting, and carrying out activities to rid the planet of Jews. All Jews. That’s what a genocide and war crimes are, since you’ve repeatedly use those terms incorrectly also.
Jackie– I find it interesting that both you and andy
are twisting yourselves in knots to explain that
just because hitler only got 30% of the primary
vote and that he actually got 30% of the primary
vote and therefore became the murderous thug
that he was because he only got 30% of the primary
vote. And how does pointing out that hitler only got 30%
of the primary vote “dilute” the atrocities of the Holocaust ?
Maybe I should have said that Hitler was able to come into power with only about 30% of the support of the people.
If 70% of any population fails to speak out against unspeakable atrocities, that is at least as bad as condoning the perpetrators’ acts. Silence is the sin. Those who fail to speak out to condemn the Islamic regime’s atrocities and the continuing rapes of Jewish women are guilty at least of cowardice and hypocrisy when pretending to care about “world injustices”. Silence is approval, especially in these most extreme times. Wouldn’t you agree, Mary?
And by the way, main stream media are so liberal-biased these days that rags like LA Times and WaPo have “journalists” (note the quotes) are quitting their jobs because their papers will not endorse Harris. Liberals must think they invented propaganda.
Jackie– you do know that Fox “news” has more viewers than cnn
and msnbc combined. And is the most watched news outlet, right ?
The Joe Rogan experience is the most
popular political podcast in the country.
I didn’t know they had a liberal bias.
Or are they actually the “mainstream media” that
are doing all the lying that I keep hearing about ?
And about people quitting their jobs– I guess you
have a problem with that ? This is America you know–
anyone can quit any job for any reason. And I did
note the quotes around “journalist”. I guess you think
that people who have studied journalism, and jumped through
all the hoops to get the jobs they have are somehow
less of a journalist if they take some sort of stand that you don’t like.
Yes, Jackie, you are attacking and degrading them for having some
personal principals. Typical trump tactic– you don’t like what they did ?
Yeah just personally attack them– they’re probably all anti-semites
anyway.
But I thought you said that was never appropriate.
Let me paraphrase a famous line from George Orwell’s book “Animal Farm”
“it’s never appropriate to attack someone for their beliefs—
unless it contradicts conservative beliefs and they are morally based “.
Better to have the likes of some fox news hosts
who just tow the party line and lie in the interest of
political ideology and big money . Yeah if you think you
you know who I am talking about, I am.
Ms Hansen not true. Hitler assumed office defacto due to Hindenburg’s death in 1934. Hitler had 30 percent to Hindenburg’s 54 in the primary and Hindenburg became President after that. Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor and later Hitler assumed the Presidency due to the death of Hindenburg. If you want to compare Trump to Hitler at least get the history right. Some of us know something.
andy– interesting that you are confirming Mary’s post while
calling it not true. Hitler got 30% of the vote in the primary–
Harris got zero– except for VP where she got over 81 million votes
(51.3 %) you said that Biden would never make it for 4 years—
hmmmm
There are no “primary” votes in the Weimar Republic or indeed in any German elections up to the present day.
The blind leading the blind.
Andrew, thanks for the correction.
Trump’s isolationist stance toward the free world and his embrace of dictators is troubling.
Trump has said that he is close friends with Putin. Elon Musk, a firm supporter of Trump, has been speaking with Putin. Americans have reason to be very afraid of a second Trump term.
Putin has ordered the killing of many journalists. Is that the future we want in the United States?
It is NOT the future that I want.
Mary by all means support Harris and dislike Hitler but your excessive posts about Nazi and Hitler and Trump being friends with Putin are all untrue. Putin is a thug and a killer. Trump does not support Hitler. I dont support Ukraine but dont like Putin. Putin respects Trump but not Harris. Trump and Putin met at G7 conferences and on other world leader occasions. He knows how to talk to him but he is not a close friend. What is wrong with Elon Musk.? Are we going to damn people due to association. Musk is a brilliant man who has contributed mightily to or economy and his EV’s help you with your climate change religion. Trump does embrace Dictators. He met Kim which was staged but a good thing. Orban of Hungary likes him. What Dictators does he support? Better to look for Harris to give some policy prescriptions rather than calling Trump a hitler and a fascist. It is not helping her one bit.
Using illogical and often incorrect scare tactics invoking the Third Reich is demeaning to the memory of 6 million Jews. Please stop it.
Jackie– Mary has perhaps brought up Hitler 3 or 4 times at the most.
Trump brought him up at his fascist rally just a few days ago.
I assume you were there, laughing at all the racist jokes…
Did you like the one about Jews being cheap ?
Your incessant scare tactics invoking the evils of the
Arab community is demeaning to the memory of the millions of
people who died in all wars. Especially the likely more
than 50,000 dead civilians in Gaza.
Everyone here has heard about all the dead Israelis on Oct 7
and have expressed their horror about it.
You of course , probably forgot about trump saying that
“Hitler did some good things” — and was referring to
the third reich generals.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-said-hitler-did-some-good-things-and-wanted-generals-like-the-nazis-former-chief-of-staff-kelly-claims
Or that during the Charlotteville unite the right rally he said there were
good people on both sides. — He was referring to nazis chanting
“Jews will not replace us”. Oh, I know– why am I focused on the
past ? Well, Jackie let me preempt you–
when you stop talking about the Holocaust, I will stop talking
about Charlottesville. trump loves hitler–and his policies, and thinks Putin
is a military genius because he invaded a sovereign country.
What do you think are the “good things” that hitler and his generals did ?
Interesting that a Jew would be willing to embrace such a flawed
narcissist that is more familiar with Mein Kampf than the bible.
I have just made my first vote in a national election as a recently naturalized citizen. The policies offered by either candidate seem to be irrelevant, because one candidate appears to believe in established democratic process, and the other candidate might not. The democratic process is more important than any of the policies, because it is the means by which we can freely choose those policies.
Duncan, congratulations! 🎉
Welcome, hope you are happy 😊 here.
The idea that Kamala Harris is brilliant is majorly cringe-worthy.
The self-anointed and “saviors” of democracy chose their candidate via coup and cabal.
‘Nuff said.
Mary. Approximately 80 million want Trump as President. They are made up of all manner of men and women and all demographics. Some are highly educated and others are not. Some might be in the ”basket of deplorables” as Hilary called them. Approximately the same number want Harris. Can you not bend your mind around the fact that the first 80 million are not nut cases, institutionalized, drunks, addicts, low IQ people and all the rest of it. Do you not think they know about charges brought against Trump, about his narcissism and his weak character? Why are you constantly mentioning with great derision that you cant imagine any decent person voting for Trump? Yes you are passionate about several things and I applaud you for your convictions. However disagreement is part of our democracy. Do you really believe he will jail Democrats? Do you really think he is buddy buddy with Putin. Do you really think he embraces Dictators? He met with Kim–a tv spot. He goes to G7 conferences and meets occasionally with Putin as do all the other World leaders. Do you really believe the Madison Square rally is a personification of the 1939 rally at Madison SQ Garden supporting Hitler. Even though Hilary held one at MSG as did Clinton? Are you really afraid if he wins a second term. Would your life change much?. Your specific life? There are some things I would die for, some things I would defend and some things I would discuss. What are your essentials?
Andrew, if 80 million people hadn’t been lied to by the conservative media, then maybe I would believe they wanted Trump for president.
I do NOT believe that 80 million people really want what the Republican Party has on offer at the moment.
Trump told us that he is buddy, buddy with Putin. Trump told us that if we vote for him we won’t ever have to vote again, he will fix it so we don’t have elections. Apparently, you think Trump is a comedian and he doesn’t mean what he says.
I want peace in the world for all people. I want all people to experience prosperity. I want all people to have freedom. I want a world that is safe and an earth that is cared for. You have expressed that you don’t want what I want.
Wow! Did you read Project 2025? Do you think “Cheeto Man” will not implement a good number of the policies advanced in that document? He has stated he wants to be a Dictator and His executioner in chief Stephen Miller and his cronies have been attending his rallies advocating the policies in that document already. I want Our democracy to continue to develop and grow. Sure, it has its flaws but its much better, I imagine, than living in a Communist or socialist government.
Kamala Harris talks about the future and the continued growth of the “Democracy” as a byproduct of the Constitution of the United States. I don’t want to go back. I don’t want my people to go back to slavery or be subject to Jim Crow laws. I believe this country is the best in the world because of the diversity of the population and what each ethnic group or gender contributes to this country. The immigrants are here for the same opportunity as those folks who came over and landed on Plymouth Rock. They want their families to obtain an education, to travel, to buy what they want, to go to the church of their choosing. They are not taking Black Jobs, White Jobs. They basically do the the jobs that we don’t want to do.
Finally, the characterization of Kamala being unqualified or unintelligent I definitely take issue to. Being a proud HBCU Howard Law Graduate myself with knowledge of the honorable graduates that have passed through its doors is undeniable. No one graduates from Howard University expecting to be given anything. We have to work two or three times harder to get the same recognition as a graduate in the marketplace from Harvard or Yale. She has put in her time as a prosecutor, attorney general and is vice-president of the United States so she deserves to be the President of the United States. She has stated what her policies are and will be. She is “Brilliant”. Cheeto Man’s policies in the future will be Project 2025 and he will continue to spew hate and LIE. Is that how we want to be represented in the World?
Harris has a terrible record.
She has not put in any time—that is, she has basically kept chairs warm instead of busting her butt.
Her record is one of laziness and not doing her homework.
As VP she has done nothing.
All of this just campaign boilerplate that is not backed up by investigation of her actual record.
I don’t see Trump spewing hate.
I see him having fun trolling the Dems.
Can you provide examples of Trump spewing hate from the current campaign?
It seems like the Dems are far more into the hate spewing. Starting with the endless predictable Hitler silliness.
Get a grip, Dems. No one even pays attention to this nonsense anymore.
You need something else.
Pol Pot seems to be still available.
Of course, the Pol Pot fright mask fits VP “Genocide Buck Stops Here” Harris far better than it does Trump.
People who hate Trump and Harris equally can vote for Jill Stein.
I quit reading this article when the Times called kamala “brilliant.” That is untrue and drags the credibility of the paper down. I’ve posted here many times about ms. Harris so I won’t repeat myself. Far left communities like the Vineyard have circled around her after the DNC coup to remove the sitting president from the ticket. Fair enough. Now let the rest of the country be heard. The clock is ticking and our enemies are watching events here closely…
It’s disgusting to use any sexual abuse of women as propaganda and misleading manipulation. It isn’t as bad as saying rape is justified as an act of resistance by “freedom fighters”, but make no mistake liberals, both agendas are a disgraceful abuse of human beings.
I’m shocked, SHOCKED the Times came out for harris. (This paper would support a block of wood if it wasn’t a Republican. Fact.)
Peter, somewhere through the years the Republican Party lost its way. John McCain, Ronald Reagan, and Bob Dole would be appalled to see the turn the Party has taken.
It is unconscionable that a newspaper that serves the entire island and it’s varied population
would be biased in any direction. The editorials are blatant in their prejudice and disregard
for opposing thought. It’s like you don’t think at all..just echo. Archaic: a person who slavishly
repeats the words or opinions of another. We the people deserve better. Don’t tell us how to
think. Just report the facts..not your opinion or worse, your feelings!
Marcia, it seems to me that an editorial is supposed to express an opinion.
A news article, on the other hand, should be fair and unbiased.
By journalism standards, the MV Times does well.
My head is about to explode!! I read through all 50 of the comments and tried to keep an open mind. But I still can’t fathom how and why anyone with open eyes and ears would think that voting for the Republican candidate for president is a good idea. All you ostriches, please get your heads out of the sand.
Some people say he’s better for the economy Hah! Have you been paying attention?! The economy is doing better now than it has in decades. That’s just one example. I could go on and on, but I won’t. He’s better for nothing and no one. Except for his billionaire friends that is. Please people!! Pay attention! Why anyone would want that job is beyond me truthfully. But at least vote for someone who can help this country. Not someone who has plans to hurt it irrevocably and with no one to stand in his way this time.
Thanks for your time and attention in reading this.
Gayle, being called an ostrich is better than being called a maggot, so thank you for that. We can disagree and I still love and respect you and your family and always will.
Consider that harris is the worst vp in modern history. Incompetent, unserious. I said weeks ago she is so bad, she can lose to Trump. Half the country wants to turn the page on the disastrous harris biden agenda. How about respecting their opinion?
There are those who cannot discern balanced journalism from bias and opinion pieces. These folks aren’t expected to have insights. All words, like “frothing” for instance, no matter who expresses them, have impact to those who are able to comprehend what they read. It’s like having an inability to see a deeper message and meaning to the larger impact of a single book. Limited minds are limited.
There are charts online which rate most news organizations for bias, both left and right, clearly identifying how moderate or extreme or neutral a news source is. Check it out.
I’m going to wear my safety vest when I walk the dog. Since democrats think half the country is “garbage”, I might as well dress the part. Biden’s offensive comment mirrors Hillary’s “deplorable ” speech; it’s what elites in the press, Hollywood, Ivy League colleges, Silicon valley and coastal America really think about republican voters…and anyone else who opposes their woke, progressive agenda. Thanks Joe for reminding us where we really stand in 2024!
Now we can add offensive comments by harris fanboy, multimillionaire Mark Cuban to the list. Cuban said no smart, powerful women support trump. The elites are panicking and lashing out at normal Americans as harris stumbles toward the finish line. Who do you stand with?
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